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I don’t look at China’s actions the way you do. I don’t think they stem from an authentic interest in reducing reinfections for the sake of protecting people from injury or further injury. I think China’s government does what it does solely to exert and maintain constant, intensifying, highly-responsive behavioral control mechanisms over the population.

I readily admit that I don’t have a way to test that hypothesis against your hypothesis that they do what they do to reduce exposures and infections.

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Oct 2, 2022Liked by Walter M Chesnut

What Walter is stating makes perfect sense to me, if one looks at it from the prism of undeniable proof that this virus was man made, WHO really created the virus (prof. baric UNC and so on), and chinese being in a position to know what is going on. This last thing leads to watch what chinese are doing - since they know. this has nothing to do with control (they got credit score and all that police state for that) - also, covid is not being used in china to destroy the economy as in the West, au contraire they are more reacting to it.

Having said all that this is rather a technical site, i dont think the main issue is the politics of china's gov. but got to watch what china does, since it shows what their SCIENTIFIC opinion is, since they are in position to KNOW.

What Walter is stating on scientific side is what matters - that is the meat, watching what china does is sort of confirmation walter is on the right path.

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Oct 2, 2022·edited Oct 2, 2022

in few words, the more we learn about this virus the more concern we become - it shows chinese are not just control freaks - they might just KNOW quite a bit more.

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Yes. That is it. They have know quite a bit more from at least mid 2019. At least. A coworker I had in my sphere in summer of 2019 came back from Europe w what we know as Covid sx in full. Sick from airport hopping, no doubt. Her AB tests - she took first available - definite yes, and she was traveling months before we knew anything was coming. Never vaxxed. She quit job instead and has never had one sx of any variant since.

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I get what you're saying... but then I recall reading how the Chinese killed all the birds/sparrows in late 50's because they thought they were eating too much grain only to have the locusts eat the grain with the ecological balance upset... so what do the Chinese know???

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33 pieces of evidence the virus was manmade. https://wordsalad.info/tag-coronavirusmanmade.html

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Then why do the Chinese inject the spike protein. And why pick on certain cities which for example are populated by certain bloodlines like the Hanh class, who are a threat to the CCP.

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One strong clue is the fact that these detention facilities were built worldwide, early on. This overwhelmingly suggests they are for interning anyone they wish for any reason. NY Gov. Hochul tried to enforce an EO that gave her the authority to intern anyone for any reason. Biden had an EO earlier this year adding measles to the list of quarantinable diseases.

Gov. Inslee of WA set up detention facilities in April 2020, and advertised for armed “strike teams”. The documents set up “contact tracing” where it was written that you weren’t allowed to know who you supposedly had contact with for “privacy”, an absurd excuse for depriving you of your civil rights without due process.

Dan Andrews of Australia used “zero covid” as an excuse to lock everyone down for an excessive period, and also tried to get the right to declare pandemics by decree. The predictable result is economic destruction and the ability of the globalists to buy foreclosed property in places like Melbourne for pennies on the $.

China’s zero covid policy has led to similar disastrous results for the citizens of Shanghai and elsewhere.

It is easily seen from the pictures of the small stacked cells that these are jails, not healing centers.

It is very valuable to learn all we can about the spike and it’s avenues of harm, but whether the original bioweapon release or the bioweapon jabs and other therapies, we need to keep in mind they are all tools of depopulation and control by the globalists, and give them credit for nothing but their evil deeds.

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Oct 5, 2022·edited Oct 5, 2022

The camps were Built by US military company Blackwater/Academi.

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if the strict covid lockdowns are actually about public health then i think we would be seeing a good effort to boost immune health in general through the likes of diet, nutrition, exercise, sun, stress reduction, etc..and as well employing sensible prophylactic and early treatment strategies. do we?

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And handing out vitamin D, C, Zinc, etc. Which many people are deficient

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It is clear that the history of communists and even the Naazzis (who were socialists) that their actions support your theory. 1. manufacture an enemy 2. use the media to unite people against the manufactured enemy. In this case the enemy is a virus and the fix is a "vaccine".

The Nazzis used the phrase "final solution", and so did Bill Gates. The vaccine is the final solution to the population problem. https://odysee.com/@rowanman28:0/Never-Forget-What-These-People-Did-And-If-You-Dont-Know-By-Now-What-They-Did-Thats-A-Large-Part-Of-It-Also:e

Read more in the "Black book of communism" which includes a section on the Naazis.

Proofread EPUB: https://archive.org/details/communblackbook-1999-epub PDF: https://archive.org/details/BlackBookOfCommunism PDF: https://archive.org/details/TheBlackBookofCommunism10 OpenLibrary: https://openlibrary.org/works/OL18221501W/The_black_book_of_communism Scribd: https://www.scribd.com/document/3398379/Black-Book-of-Communism

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Also consider geopolitics.

The US has accused China of being responsible for this virus.

2 countries in search of domination.

But are we really aware of the damage of this virus in the long term?

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It is interesting how many articles one can find about how dangerous the spike protein is. But not about the injections that force your body to make them. It is clear that there is an extreme bias in the scientific publications. I rather take the Nobel prize winning drug and the other safe alternatives.

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Well said.

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Thank you for your ongoing insights. The real tragedy here is that half the population seems convinced that the virus isn't dangerous - and the other half have been nudged into taking dangerous jabs...

A Hegelian Dialectic if I ever saw one - it does a good job of leading people away from the real perpetrators of this apparent crime against humanity - as well as splitting sociaty right down the middle...

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There are a lot of us who believe the original bioweapon can be dangerous (some believe it is a virus, others don’t. Not really crucial to me). It mainly severely affects people with weakened immune systems, just like the flu. Thus we take very seriously protecting our immune system, believing that by so doing we stop the spike from entering our cells through ACE2 or other receptors. We employ HCQ or Ivermectin (IVM) or Quercitin, plus zinc, as the zinc ionosphore thus created stops the spike from entering cells. We will look to the FLCCC and/or America’s Frontline Doctors for additional treatments-early much preferred-should we feel we have covid.

This to us is a big distinction between the virus spike vs. the vaxx spike: the latter goes straight into the bloodstream, bypassing the aforementioned innate immune system, and leads to myriad disease syndromes that Walter is offering great insights about. There are plenty of other issues such as the toxicity of the LNP and other toxic ingredients, whether there by careless, unregulated, manufacturing, or by deliberate malfeasance, but that hasn’t been the subject of the articles I’ve seen here thus far.

We also realize that deadly government-mandated hospital protocols to force patients into the “Covid kill box” as documented by Katherine Watt and Todd Callander, among others, ramp up deaths that hospitals are labeling as covid. I suggest reading about it on Bailiwick News (Katherine’s Substack), but it leads to forced high pressure oxygen treatment, toxic Remdesivir, sedation, isolation from family members, ignoring of medical directives issued by the patient and/or their medical power of attorney, refusal of right to be released against medical advice, do not resuscitate orders being given without consent that lead to refusal to give the patient fluid or nutrition, refusal to employ HCQ, IVM, high dose vitamin C or vitamin D - even when under court order to do so. Patients who panic at being forced onto the high flow oxygen are then physically restrained, sedated, then when their lungs fill with fluid due to Remdesivir-induced kidney failure, they are labeled as having “covid pneumonia”, put on a ventilator and in a great many cases, die. No autopsy, just put Covid on one of the 3 lines of the death certificate: now the hospital gets roughly $100,000 in bonus money from the government on top of the fees for the actual “services” they provided. In essence people are being tortured and murdered for money, and to advance the government’s use of Covid as a weapon to shove the Great Reset agenda down our throats.

The problem is that we need a lot more people who have come to these realizations.

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Good point, away from the perpetrators to fight with one another.

I always saw the virus could be very harmful in a small number of cases. Walter and Igor's substaticks have alerted me to the dangers of repeated exposure. So I've been using my diluted hydrogen peroxide iodine nasal spray more often.

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Oct 2, 2022Liked by Walter M Chesnut

I agree that there has to be a profound reason for China’s zero covid policy.

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Control and dissolve bank run protests to begin with.

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Oct 2, 2022Liked by Walter M Chesnut

Do Covid-19 infections always involve entry of spike into the circulatory system? My understanding was that many infections stay in the upper and lower airways. To be certain there is higher risk for injections where spike enters bloodstream as Mark Girardot has stated.

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Would a vaxed person display increased breathing problems, fatigue and dizziness if they have MVO? Would a EXG and other heart tests show that this is occurring?

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> Would a vaxed person display increased breathing problems, fatigue and dizziness if they have MVO?

I'm no doctor but this is what I've read. If enough blood doesn't get to the brain one might have dizziness. Persistent fatigue is what they are also causing "long COVID" but I think it's caused by the vaccines. Theory: Spike protein damage to the lungs means the person cannot get enough oxygen.

However trouble breathing with an actual COVID infection has a different mechanism: the COVID-19 actually unbinds hemoglobin from the red blood cells so when enough red blood cells stop carrying oxygen, the person has trouble breathing, and ventilator doesn't help in these cases. But malaria also does the same thing and HCQ stops the unbinding of the hemoglobin, which Fauci knew from a study of SARS-1.

The vaccines have much higher amounts of spike proteins, and if you get the mRNA vaccines, the mRNA causes your other cells to make more spike proteins.

My dad seems to have long COVID and he got at least one vaccine. There are no unvaccinated who have long COVID. None.

You can see more studies and doctor statements about the spike protein alone here: https://wordsalad.info/tag-spikeprotein.html

186 studies, doctor statements, and analysis of gov't data that shows the vaccines are bad. https://wordsalad.info/tag-vaccinebadstudy.html

1183 other cases of why the vaccine is bad. https://wordsalad.info/tag-vaccinebad.html

EDIT: The vaccine and spike protein also attack the mitochondria, those are the things in every cell that make energy. This might also contribute to persistent fatigue. https://rumble.com/vm7z6l-autopsy-results-of-the-vaccinated-must-see.html This might be a mirror of the video: https://originalrebel.net/2021/09/22/dr-ryan-cole-of-white-coat-summit-asks-where-are-the-covid-19-vaccinated-autopsies/

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I am unvaxxed and had the original variant with the first wave and had long Covid symptoms and still have some problems.

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Thank you, Bacca400. I will read that. This is a triple vaxed friend who never got COVID and is planning on getting the bivalent shot. She is seeing cardiologist to diagnose but so far all exams show nothing. A pulmonologist said her lungs are fine. She recently developed high BP too. I think it is the vax exacerbating minor issues she already had. I will mention this MVO to her to ask cardiologist about. Since I am not vaxed she doesn’t believe most of what I say.

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I wish you and your friend the best of luck, this will be hard times to lose so many friends and family who got vaxxed. At some point we may have to choose between helping someone who refuses to see the studies and acknowledge the truth, or keeping our sanity and spending our energy on someone who CAN be helped.

I also don't think a pulmonologist would run detailed tests to find lung damage, like a biopsy, nor would they know what to look for. The damage in the lungs can mimic other issues for which confirming tests would be negative, leaving the doctor baffled.

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Thank you. Your words are appreciated.

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China's zero covid policy has nothing to do with the virus, health, or saving lives. It has everything to do with the geopolitics, financial collapse, The Great Reset, brainwashing, and controlling their own population. The only reason why you see zero covid policy in China being successfully adopted and enforced is because CCP already has a biosecurity surveillance system in place that allows that to happen. People in China are used to being obedient to the communist state. Remember, other countries tried adopting the same policy, but the biosecurity surveillance system was not there to enforce it, and people had different mindsets all over the world, so they needed to let it go for now. Constant swabbing and testing is nothing else but a control mechanism combined with vaccine passports to enforce compliance, along with collecting DNA data for later use and processing in large databases. They want people to get used to the idea of the state having constant access to their own bodies. All countries were following the same agenda from the start. Some will arrive there sooner than others.

Short thread explaining why all states do all the nonsense that they do:

https://twitter.com/B33Mello/status/1500852140511744008

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In the Socialist Republic of Michigan, in 2020, we also had to have travel papers. Travel was locked down that year and we could not leave the house unless we had to get groceries, or we were "critical workers". Since I was a critical worker I got my travel papers but I was working from home anyway.

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I lived through that torment in the state of whitmer grief. Heaven help us if she is still around after the 2022 midterms.

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I agree 100% with you.

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Are you describing the mechanism of injury to the microvasculature from the spike protein from the virus or vaccine/gene-line editing drug or both?

I just want to be crystal clear because my understanding is that it’s the jab that is most dangerous, not the virus.

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I should prob let someone else answer but I read the jabs lead to trillions of spike protein ongoing for some undetermined amount of time (2-9 months or longer). Therefore, you are getting tons more spikes from the jabs and each jab adds to that amount significantly. Whereas the virus itself can cause serious damage to those vulnerable (unhealthy, obese, elderly with numerous conditions) but for most ppl its not that big of a deal and the body will promptly clear them out.

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my most nonclinical response: More deadly are the jabs. The jabs SP stays. Sets up housekeeping for good, all in LNPs, throughout the body, finding the weakest links. Virus, well, good luck wishing its SP away as well. Shortest version I can state.

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There has to be a real vaccine for this. None of the ones involved have had any side effects or deaths. Biden is old as the hills, has had it like 3 times and is doing fine, ……kind of.

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@angrycardiologist on Twitter wants studies proving that spike is toxic. Can you provide, please?

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A lot of organ necrosis; especially around the intestines and other major organs (liver, kidney and etc) depriving organs oxygenation through the circulatory system! Watch this episode of the Medical Truth Podcast where I interview Dr. Rob Rollins a pediatric cardiologist as he describes Kawasaki Disease vs Multi System Inflammatory disease in pediatric patients https://rumble.com/v3hfzps-what-is-multisystem-inflammatory-syndrome-interview-with-robert-rollins-m.d.html

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Had exact and long term trials been performed for any experimental substance, as they absolutely needed to be, we would have known most of this ahead of sticking this putrid poison into billions of people. There was never any medical emergency as millions were not suddenly dying in the streets. Most deaths, even if they could be proven to be from covid, occurred in people who had other medical afflictions.

We have been severely duped by fear and panic; the 70 year old big pharma game plan used to market all drugs and vaccines. This is why accurate and complete trials for mRNA gene altering injections were never finished. And why mice will suffice for real scientific studies. The results of long term trials would have been total disaster, as we are now discovering.

How best to recover from the damage? Look into 180KHU liquid cayenne tincture and other heart healthy herbs and perhaps some chlorine dioxide and magnesium. Don't ask your doctor about any of this...he is clueless and only knows big pharma drug protocols and that is the reason you are sick to begin with.

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Oct 6, 2022·edited Oct 6, 2022

A friend of mine with at least 4 jabs needed a surgery and as part of work up an EKG was done. In reviewing his results, the doctor asked if he had had a heart attack. My friend said not that he knew of. His heart showed significant damage much like a heart attack. He has never had COVID.

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Just thought I would share with the group this video by one of my favs about a study to get rid of Spike Protein whether from Virus or Jab. To everyone's good health.

https://youtu.be/3tqwqEqOBe4

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CLOTS!

Take enzymes!

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