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DaCon: I am 72. Everyone forgets to mention that bones require Collagen (a sticky substance) for the calcium accompanied by D3, and hauled by K2 to the bones where collagen must be present for Calcium ROCK to stick to!

At my age, I have tremendous loss of collagen in my back-of-hands (so I know it is limited all inside my body and cells. Very many old people are like me, with a shortage of Collagen (maybe due to not eating much meat, whether for cost in retirement or difficulties with digestion). Collagen is a protein needed in every cell, and NEEDED AT THE BONES (it is like a sticky-cement, so to speak, that adheres the calcium to the bone, where presumably calcium's ions move "indoors", so to speak, and begin to fill and close what may be major holes in the bone that could lead to fractures and breaks. I am not any sort of medical health biology person, so my conclusions from my readings may be off-base; but I am certain my conclusions about collagen are on target.

ALL readers: since the the largest group of age 65+ retirees are baby-boomers, ( born from 1946-to the early 1960s)--and now (or soon) well into their 70s) so many (especially lean and thin ones) are probably deficient in collagen. There are other younger people who are also deficient in dietary collagen. Please (unless I am mistaken) advise taking dietary foods that provide collagen, or health supplements of collagen, along with Calcium (if you think that is an essential---I say that because Doctor Thomas E Levy, MD, JD (JD=Juris Doctorate=Attorney trained to build a sequence of Medical Research evidence to draw an extremely logical conclusion) says "old people can (and should) stop taking Calcium supplements" (there is an exception) IF THEY ARE EATING VEGETABLES, because vegetables will provide all the dietary calcium they need (they are after all "full grown"). The worry is that calcium won't "stick" at bones (with insufficient collagen), so where should it go? It goes to joints and tendons and deposits calcium there; it can even go into tissue cells; and since Calcium is a crystalized mineral, it has sharp edges and point (as all crystals have); and movement at joints and in tissues can cause immense pain. lf I recall correctly, Dr. Levy suggested that people taking doctor recommended Calcium supplements can greatly reduce their pain level within one year by taking ample amounts of collagen (that every cell in the body needs--like the skin cells in the back of my hands); and taking collagen for two years, daily, regularly can essentially "cure" what people have been led to believe is arthritis and osteoporosis. Vitamin-C is extremely important in this matter and process also! Every comment I have read so far is from someone who knows that Vitamin D3 attaches to Calcium, and that the Calcium is moved toward bones by Vitamin K2. But rarely do I read in articles or hear comments about how "the sharp rock" sticks to the bones that are the storage place for when cells need the ions of Calcium to perform their "complete" functions (and I don't know cellular microbiology so someone else will have to pipe-in). I kept reading about such things because my still-living wife of 52 years+ had rheumatic fever at age 11 and once it was diminished had joint (and usually severe) pain (and for the rest of her life). I have told her what I write here--she doesn't believe me; which is also why when I told her to don't take the Covid-shots (#3)--wait until more info is available....she dismissed that and went "all in". Now after four years of it she is finally taking the most important anti-covid-shot supplements, but she still takes her Doctor's prescribed calcium pills. She wears her illness as "a badge", because it has been a life-long identity. I think she would feel ashamed if she ever got better, such as following Dr. Levy's advice. So (if it happens) the premature death, or at least a "miserable older age" can be significantly reduced over time with a little bit of faith (yes, there are two known exceptions).

That shame is a very real thing. How should one feel after 60-years suffering from Doctor induced (by Calcium prescription) "pain", only to find out it was unnecessary (though back in the 1960s NO ONE KNEW THAT (apparently). I added this latter comment because it represents the struggle of care-givers who have not found an explanation for why aged parents keep taking (Big Pharm) meds they have taken all their life. Their disease becomes an identify badge, a badge of honor for those who "do the same levels of work despite their pain". Levy wrote a huge-fat book called Death By Calcium (referring to older people), about 450 pages; and if I recall correctly about 400+ research studies...and the whole subject is definitely complicated somewhat by genes; and also by hormones.

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