I noised it abroad with this headline "Find, boil and drink this. - Honeysuckle decoction. - Redemption at hand."
From the study "600 ml water boiled with 30 g dry honeysuckle for 80 min until obtaining 200 ml HD" (Honeysuckle decoction) dose was 100 mL Honeysuckle decoction 2 times in one day. from the supplementary data "Dry honeysuckle was purchased from the local TCM store. For Honeysuckle decoction, we boiled 30 g dry honeysuckle in 600 ml water for 80 minutes and got 200 ml herb decoction."
I read this as meaning put 30 grams of dry Honeysuckle flower in 600 mL of water and boiled it at a certain heat setting such that after boiling for 80 minutes a little bit less than 400 mL of water boiled off.
So - if the decision was made to duplicate their procedure for making Honeysuckle decoction, an experiment to find a heat setting that boils off a little less than 400 mL of plain water in 80 minutes.
my note: Inhibiting viral replication is a treatment best started at first sign of any covid symptom when using safe antivirals. (I have never taken a covid test, I have never obtained any covid tests for my "covid kit") This study was done with "Moderate type patients" "All enrolled patients have pneumonia confirmed by chest computed tomography imaging. COVID-19 infection was determined by pharyngo swab quantitative RT-qPCR assay which performed by either local Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) or the designated diagnostic laboratory in the hospital.
This is the best information I found on Honeysuckle
Gumshoe-ing around China on the internet I found - In China Honeysuckle is valued as a treatment for covid-19. Considered actually "safe and effective" and sold out the instant it became available to purchase, from early on, after the study results and simple treatment protocol became known - to the dismay of the remdesivir salesman and or saleswomen who tried to disparage the use of Honeysuckle decoction as "sugar water" to increase their remdesivir sales.
I did not see this "counterpoint" until today "Decreased HD-MIR2911 absorption in human subjects with the SIDT1 polymorphism fails to inhibit SARS-CoV-2 replication" here https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-020-00206-5
The Great Alchemist has already made it to work. It is now up to the old man and the old woman - perhaps grandma and grandpa spending time with their grandchild picking Honeysuckle flowers in the spring, then setting them on a clean towel on the floor to dry. Then, if needed, taking the dry flowers from the canning jar, putting an ounce of dry flowers and a 500 mL bottle of filtered water of in a covered pot to low simmer for an hour. Then to strain the tea into 2 cups and have a cup of tea together in the morning. Then to repeat at night and well survive covid to pick Honeysuckle flowers in the spring, again, with their grandchild.
Yes I agree. "Best not to rely on any one single modality when trying to keep the viral swarm at bay. The "counterpoint" reference just "appeared" when I went to look for the current location of the Honeysuckle study I found on a preprint server? in 2020 as that link no longer "worked". "Influencing" what appears in "search" most probably is a reasonably economical means by which those on Higher Spiritual "inner" levels may give a bit of help. As it also is for the evil here below to censor search to harm many.
Below is my Basic Prevention "modality". Both for Prevention and for initial treatment of infection.
Then also to be treated and inhibited with some combination of Basic Treatment dosing of over the counter and generic drugs and "nutraceuticals"
Note to: The Real Doctors, True covid times Real Heros, who have developed covid treatment protocols, who treated and saved many, though who have yet "FAILED" to come together, in some manner, and write up their individual protocols as a unified,universal, all covid stage, covid "treatment ladder". with options considering availability of over the counter and generic drugs and "nutraceuticals" and clinical considerations seen in individual patients, Yes I know some about what you have gone through and that this job could be done by someone else, or team, who could outline this "ladder" for You to then illuminate with help you then give.
BASIC PREVENTION. It has worked for me. Mostly, as an older person at higher risk from covid, I avoid unnecessary exposure to "shared air" and as this is unavoidable at times -
an ounce of prevention for 165 pounds of me - hoping for high blood vitamin D3 levels in the 50 ng/mL to 90 ng/mL range with a combination of regular, and as I have not been a "good" pill taker, periodic and bolus doses averaging out to 7500 IU D3 over time and 150 mcg K2-MK7 per day when I do take a D3 dose of any amount . Plus some magnesium citrate and zinc and other supplements.
Just before indoor "shared air" exposure I 1st spray home mixed antiviral 12% xylitol in PLAIN sterile filtered water into my nose and mouth to saturation and the need to blow my nose. (a scant tsp xylitol in a 30 mL nasal pump type fine metered spray bottle such as "Snoot" brand) I use birch xylitol. Cleans nose - improves biome - reduces viral binding - antiviral activity. Plain water, not saline, seems best here per published research and confirmed in a Steve Kirsch interview with the head of Xlear, a company that produces and sells products with xylitol.
Then a few sprays of home mixed antiviral 0.5% povidone-iodine in sterile saline breathed deep as sprayed into each nostril and mouth and from a bit of a distance (aiming between the eyes at bridge of nose) a couple of sprays on to open eyes and eye area. (1 part povidone-iodine solution 10% to 19 parts saline solution note: some prefer a 1% mix 1 part povidone-iodine to 9 parts saline) Kills the damn virus. I choose more sprays, 4 into each nostril and into mouth of 0.5% (perhaps I will go to 0.6% as 1 study found more effective than 0.5%) for perhaps better wetting and coverage vs fewer sprays, 2, of 1%. I ignore trials started 5 days after testing positive, perhaps 10 days after infection that show no benefit. Probably offers good protection up to 3 hours. 1 study showed viral killing was gone at 4 hours. I found one hospital system mixing it, 0.5%, fresh every day out of concern that in solutions less than 1% the iodine, over time, may be released from the povidone bond. I understand this would make the iodine stronger and more irritating as free iodine dissolved out of the povidone. note: in Japan a 0.23% formulation is marketed. They were using it in the hospital 5 times over the course of the work day from just before starting work to just after finishing work. I give it a good shake before use, I mix a little at a time and use it up, if I had older solution and found it irritating I would mix up a new bottle. I have found the 0.5% very easy to use.
I started out from Dr George Domb, ENT https://krcrtv.com/news/local/redding-doctor-says-he-may-have-a-solution-to-prevent-transmission-of-covid-19 if it does not stay visible refresh and rapidly click on the page as it momentarily appears. He used 1/2 tsp povidone-iodine solution 10% in a 44mL squeeze bottle of saline nasal spray. His cautions for its use (for prevention) "Do not use it if you are pregnant, breastfeeding, have hyperthyroidism, are being treated for thyroid cancer with irradiated iodine, or hypersensitive to iodine. It should not be used on children younger than 6." I, personally, would certainly use it for all at the first sign of possible covid infection.
I wipe the spray nozzle and inside of the nozzle cap with a piece of tissue damped with a bit of bleach and clean out the spray bottle and sprayer using 70% isopropyl alcohol , spraying with the cap on loosely to rinse it out and shake out the bottle and spray out the sprayer then air dry before refilling.
After the xylitol and PVI sprays I put on a 3M N95 and add the side shields to my normal looking safety eye glasses - any eyeglasses help. Comfortable breathable 3M "Aura" 9205+ N95 with weak straps that break or the Aura 9210+ with probably stronger straps, both which fits the most people and which have a filtration efficiency of, see test # 644, . Keeping out 99.68% - "total leakage" through and around the mask - of salt test particles with a median size the size of a smaller single sars-cov-2 virus and within the salt test particle mix particles 30 times smaller and twice as large approximating the size of a larger single sars-cov-2 per wickedpedia sars-cov-2 size data . see Aaron Collins testing masks on youtube. Also see there how easy it actually is to adjust N95 masks for fit. I also use the 8210+ with a filtration efficiency of 99.80% see test # 636 because it is so easy to put on and take off fast and wear for a few minute "encounter" for protection from the curb side pickup "close talker" or cough or sneeze in the face. Aaron Collins has said the 3M™ VFlex™ Particulate Respirators 9100 Series was his "new favorite" because it is exceptionally breathable. It is also the lowest cost and available in 2 sizes. Mask test data available here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M0mdNLpTWEGcluK6hh5LjjcFixwmOG853Ff45d3O-L0/edit?pli=1#gid=1976839763 note: the electrostatic charge fills all the space between the fiber of the masks so that very tiny particles with little mass are easily captured by the electrostatic charge which draws the fine particles to the fibers and sticks them there. These may also be be quite effective against tiny toxic "shed" particles. note: the 95% rating is against a larger, heaver, "most penetrating" size and mass particle.
After indoor "shared air" exposure, when back home I use 1% Johnson's regular "no more tears" baby shampoo in sterile saline for nasal flush using a NeilMed 8 ounce nasal flush bottle, for eye wash from palm of clean hand or eye wash cup - blinking a lot and for mouthwash/gargle. (1 tsp/5mL baby shampoo per ~16 ounces/500 mL saline) then, as you will, a few sprays of PVI. The baby shampoo in saline is a viral killer and good cleaner. I may also nebulize a few mL (8 ml?) of regular vodka - easy to do after a few partial "diluted" 1/2 breaths. I use the Philips respironics "InnoSpire Elegance", no prescription needed from some on line suppliers, low cost 100% duty cycle . I think this would be better, easier to breathe, if enough "saline mix" was added to the vodka to convert the 60% water fraction in the vodka to normal saline. note: A anti-covid ethanol nebulization study states that nebulization creates such tiny particles that the ethanol and water separate by rapid evaporation into very high percent ethanol and water. note: I think that if the right amount of baking soda / salt saline mix was added to dissolve in the water component of vodka, in addition to outright killing of the virus some additional inhibition of viral cell entry and inhibition of viral replication in the cell could be possible. note: Nebulation is a key to therapeutic delivery of covid-19 prevention and treatment including, per Dr Zelenko and David Scheim PhD, hydroxychloroquine where as few as 1 or 2 pills worth of HCQ nebulized almost immediately builds the therapeutic effect, and more, of a full course of pills without potential systemic side effects or contraindications.
For saline I use 1 part baking soda 3 parts salt which is close to the NeilMed formula for saline mix.
(by measuring a couple of NeilMed saline mix packs) to make 2 cups/16 ounces/500mL 1/4 tsp baking soda 3/4 tsp salt. I boil the water from a 500 mL bottle of filtered water for a few minutes, let it cool down then add the baking soda and salt. I let it cool till just warm because heat chemically changes baking soda.
IMO Very much worth the effort for the high risk. Actually simple after a routine has been established. Most all may actually be at risk over the long term from some "spike" pathology even from "mild" covid and also from the spike "vaccine" antigen.
ps. the 2 times per day nasal flush study that reduced hospitalization of covid sick older high risk people by 8 times added either 1/2 tsp of povidone-iodine solution 10% OR 1/2 tsp of baking soda to 1 cup/8 fluid ounces of "normal" (NeilMed) saline. Both the povidone-iodine and the alkalizing baking soda mix worked ~ equally well.
Thanks. Great information. One can never have enough Intel when dealing with the quasispecies swarm. Here is one for you (which you are likely well aware of due to the extensive nature of your research)
Eat Leeks (if for no other reason that they are rather tasty).
Thanks. So clear, if we had Real public health departments they could easily have come up with save and effective options to stop this in 2020. So clear they chose not to.
Keys are 1) Keep it out - Avoidance, N95 and eye protection 2) Kill it before and if it gets in - povidone-iodine, ethanol, and soap/detergent/baby shampoo, isopropyl alcohol 3) Stop entry into the cell - Add raise PH over 6.8 baking soda, and any number of other options to stop entry into the cell 4) Stop replication in the cell if it gets in - Add hypertonic saline, probably simply ~2 times "normal" concentration, and any number of other options to stop replication in the cell
I first used home mixed antiviral azelastine eye drops and recently the 0.5% povidone-iodine / saline spray for eyes. Which is better? I do not know. Azelastine was shown early on to be an effective sars-cov-2 antiviral at the prescribed concentration (which prescribed concentration was not referenced). The prescribed concentration for eye drops is 0.05%. The new over the counter "Astepro Allergy" azelastine nasal spray is 0.15% azelastine, even stronger than the prescription version azelastine nasal spray. (good for your covid kit) At walmart I bought Astepro and a 0.5 FL OZ (15 mL) "Sterile Artificial Tears" which I used, I also bought the Equate 0.5 FL OZ (15 mL) "Dry Eye Relief" (or your choice or sterile saline?) Wash first and sterilize hands with 70% isopropyl alcohol and all - syringe,tsp measure if used, dish to put bottle tops on. I first shook the bottles a bit and let them sit to settle. I wiggled off the top of the eye drop bottle gripping it with a piece of paper towel wet with 70% isopropyl alcohol. I poured out and discared 1 tsp / 5 mL. I unscrewed the Astepro top, put it on the plate and poured to fill the 1 tsp / 5 mL.measuring spoon and used a sterilized syringe (it was not marked with graduations) to put this into the eye drop bottle. There has been no visible (clear bottle) change in this mixed, now antiviral eye drop solution for over a year.
note: A study shows adding such as ~1% Johnson's regular baby shampoo (1 tsp/5ml per 500 mL) to 70% isopropyl alcohol improves its efficacy as a hand sanitizer. The 70% version evaporates slower SO it has more viral killing "dwell time" on hands. Probably the better (vs 91%) choice for budget hand sanitizer application. I have found no drawbacks to adding 1% Johnson's baby shampoo to 70% isopropyl alcohol for home mixed hand sanitizer.
When considering a combination of both baking soda and salt - for some applications some combination which both raises PH above 6.8 around the cell area it contacts and has a saline concentration of around 1.5% or so is indicated in Light of some of the references below.
Hypertonic saline solution inhibits SARS-CoV-2 in vitro assay https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.04.235549v2 "Our data shows that 260 mM NaCl (1.5%) inhibits 100% SARS-CoV-2 replication in Vero cells. Furthermore, our results suggest that the virus replication inhibition is due to an intracellular mechanism and not due to the dissociation between spike SARS-CoV-2 protein and its human receptor angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 interaction. NaCl depolarizes the plasma membrane supposedly associated with the inhibition of the SARS-CoV-2 life cycle. This observation could lead to simple, safe and low cost interventions at various stages of COVID-19 treatment, improving the prognosis of infected patients, thereby mitigating the social and economic costs of the pandemic." my note: saline does not block viral entry via ACE2.
my note: when the cell is "flooded" with hypertonic saline this causes the cell to redirect cell energy the virus is using for replication to use that cell energy to re-balance the sodium concentration in the cell thereby stopping viral replication use of that cell energy as this "re-balance" process proceeds.
SARS-CoV-2 requires acidic pH to infect cells https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36048924/ "we show that fusion and genome penetration require virion exposure to an acidic milieu of pH 6.2 to 6.8, .... . We define a key role of an acidic environment for successful infection, found in endosomal compartments and at the surface of TMPRSS2-expressing cells in the acidic milieu of the nasal cavity." "pH catheter placed in the left and right nasal cavities of 17 healthy male and female volunteers, we found a mildly acidic pH of around 6.6"
Lowering the transmission and spread of human coronavirus https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.26514 " A 1% baby shampoo nasal rinse solution inactivated HCoV greater than 99.9% with a 2-min contact time."
I also ignore (EXCEPT FOR A BIT OF TRUTH NOTED BELOW) such as this typical mis dis mal information "study" from bioweapon baric and the bioweapon baric gain of function gang and colleagues at the university of north carolina at chapel hill et al. "Pharmacokinetic‐based failure of a detergent virucidal for severe acute respiratory syndrome–coronavirus‐2 (SARS‐CoV‐2) nasal infections: A preclinical study and randomized controlled trial" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9011886/ ( SOUNDS REAL "OFFICIAL") They started the trial much much too late to show benefit and they only tested for viral load reduction in nasal cells just inside the opening of the nostrils. The only area tested was "(about 2cm) or until you feel resistance". into the nose "with self‐administered mid‐turbinate swabs"
"The primary outcome measure in the clinical trial was change in SARS‐CoV‐2 viral load over 21 days" The earliest swabbing was 3 to 4 days after they tested positive so perhaps 10 days after infection - so way too late. People collected and then stored the swabs at home for weeks.before sending them in. Wonder of wonder no difference between the control and "experimental" groups.
BIT OF TRUTH from the "study" note: J&J = Johnson & Johnson regular baby shampoo "(Figure 2A,B). Having identified a nontoxic concentration of J&J/S (½ tsp J&J/240 ml saline), we then showed that this concentration of J&J/S exhibited robust virucidal activity against SARS‐CoV‐2 at varying titers (Figure 2C). Further assays of virucidal activity demonstrated that this concentration was also virucidal in vitro against NL63 coronavirus and respiratory syncytial virus (Supplementary Figure 2A,B).
note: they used 2 packets of NeiMed saline mix in 240mL of water to make a hypertonic saline - 1 packet in 240mL / 8 fluid ounces / 1 cup makes normal saline.
As we know "they" also did this type study to discredit all Real early treatment, Real ER treatment, Real in hospital treatment and most everything actually useful to stop hospitalization and death including a povidone-iodine is bad (overdosed) "study" that only showed using much more povidone-iodine than needed caused a temporary, quickly reversed, elevation of thyroid markers. There was even an obvious "set-up" "povidone-iodine is bad " website to push that "study" ... All adding evidence in the Provable - Depraved-heart mass murder of millions. see Depraved-heart murder definition at wickedpedia here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depraved-heart_murder
The whole dry honeysuckle flower is used to make a simple boiled Honeysuckle decoction.
Please see my comment somewhere among the first 14 comments. It has most everything someone needs to know (except where and when the closest Honeysuckle blooms) on the "how to" and a starting point for a demonstrated safe and effective dose. I would think dosing more than over just one day, as the study used, has been done and safe and even more effectiveness achieved depending on if more doses are needed depending on the 1/2 life of active agent. Such as the 1st day doses as used and then perhaps 1/2 that amount for 4 days? Something to search out when Honeysuckle flowers are in hand or at hand.
Thanks - my honeysuckle is blooming now.... only I'll have to research if all varieties are good to use. I've got the pink/yellow/white flowered cultivar.
With the pink yours sounds more like common honeysuckle (Lonicera periclymenum). I found just a few limited references to the medicinal use of this variety, none "scientific". I found very little reference to the medicinal use of any of the many varieties of honeysuckle. It seems once Lonicera japonica was identified as the medicinal variety little science has been done with the many other varieties.
Perhaps Lonicera japonica is also blooming now in your area.
An interesting thing about japanese honeysuckle is that it hosts deer ticks. there are several studies on this. pretty much the whole of the old hardwood forest across southern ohio and probably indiana and illinois is now a waste land of japanese honeysuckle. The deer like to bed down in the patches because they like small bushes that rustle when predators get into them. they have relative immunity to borellia. Honeysuckle is a traditional southern folk remedy for acute disease from damp heat in the summer--somewhat lethargic presentation, like the homeopathic remedy Gelsemium. Skullcap-forsythia-honeysuckle is one of the great TCM antivirals and was sold out quickly in the first year of the pandemic.
Can also be found under the Chinese Pin Yin name: Jin Yin Hua. It is traditionally used with another Chinese antiviral, Forsythia Lian Qiao, which you might recall is the novel antiviral that Jude Law peddles in Contagion
This is one of numbers that were completed. Efficacy and safety of Lianhuaqingwen capsules, a repurposed Chinese herb, in patients with coronavirus disease 2019: A multicenter, prospective, randomized controlled trial here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7229744/
Please see my comment somewhere among the first 14 comments here for a Honeysuckle for covid "how to" and my reply to another comment here for an additional thought on determining best dose of "The whole dry honeysuckle flower is used to make a simple boiled Honeysuckle decoction." (for covid)
Skullcap-forsythia-honeysuckle is a basic TCM antiviral and was widely used in the initial covid outbreak, enough so that skullcap became impossible to get.
I do not know anything about "those capsules". But I do know Honeysuckle blooms in the Spring and Honeysuckle flowers are free for the picking in areas across the world. Please do read my honeysuckle post somewhere in the first 14 posts to this comment section. It is the one beginning Ponder on - the teaching of preemption of the cycle as it applies to boiling up remedies ....... Honeysuckle blooms in the Spring.
The "Ponder on - the teaching of preemption of the cycle as it applies to boiling up remedies ......." was the heading I used to forward this "preemption of the cycle of viral replication" Honeysuckle study, on August 6, 2020, into the Spiritual Group of 10,000 of which I Am, a somewhat "removed", member. These 10,000 are well aware of "the teaching of preemption of the cycle" reference as "preemption of the cycle" is a chief strategy employed by evil at "inner levels" against those of "The Light". evil at "inner levels" working, historically, through "embodied evil" pursuing evil occupation to fulfill their individual inordinate, evil desires. Though It does seem, increasingly, that the embodied evil now are working within the increasingly "full" understanding of the plan of evil, from inner levels for the total control, genetically engineered, depopulated, dystopian "earth" which is the goal of evil at inner levels for the complete "mining" of the Light of those of God embodied on earth.
Yes, I understand. What is this? If you choose - Please check my substack later this year to see if I have been able, there, to provide a full context within which a better understanding may be gained of the specific "Strategies Of Light And Darkness" which are in play in this Epic Battle for the Future of Life on Earth. The Strategies Of Light, preempted, not yet understood. The Strategies of darkness now increasingly seen by many.
Hi Mr. Chesnut...Well, this post was certainly an interesting one...made me do a little snooping around. It appears (?), although not completely clear, that the intriguing compound, 4'-O-Methylochnaflavone, associated with detrimental effects on Pl(Pro) comes from the FLOWERS of Lonicera japonica.
I wish some of the scientific references would be more explicit on exactly what was tested (flowers, leaves, stem, root, etc...). The wiki reference on Lonicera japonica that you've included in your post suggests other parts of the herb "...have the potential to be toxic."
Of course, 'the dose makes the poison'.
So, I am going to assume the benefit comes from the flowers of Lonicera japonica unless you feel like correcting me if I've got this wrong.
Anyway, thanks for your hard work in attempting to keep the quasispecies viral swarm from killing us all which it most certainly is trying to do.
wickedpedia worked hard to refine its mis dis and mal information with this "While the nectar from the flowers can be safely consumed by humans, all other parts of the plant have the potential to be toxic.[7]" by clicking on the seven then by going to the source which says
"Nectar can be sucked from flowers without harm. Flowers are an ingredient in some Chinese dishes." and lower in the reference "TOXIC ONLY IF LARGE QUANTITIES EATEN."
wickedpedia also failed to mention that most all treated for covid in china received some form of honeysuckle flower and that it is highly regarded as safe and effective treatment for covid in China.
Yes, the flower is used. I have posted among the first 14 comments a "Honeysuckle study with "how to" made and dose Honeysuckle decoction. and in another reply here a suggestion to look for additional dosing protocols.
Just saw this article and there you are:) good one! I have some growing on my fence, and always loved to eat the nectar as a child. You just pick a flower, then pinch the bottom to grab hold of the pistole that runs up to the top, then gently pull that downward and a drop of nectar will come out the bottom. Then you just suck that drop off of the bottom of the flower. Tastes like honey:) who knew it was medicinal! I was always healthy lol.
What is with all this medicines?I heard remdesivir can kill people.But Natokinasse and Ivermectin should help.What is against Graphenoxid,can I detox it from my body?
Sorry to see your comments still getting douche-bombed. Keep fighting.
Yeah it still amazes me.
Ponder on - the teaching of preemption of the cycle as it applies to boiling up remedies .......
Honeysuckle blooms in the Spring.
I remember when this hit the servers on August 5, 2020. "Absorbed plant MIR2911 in honeysuckle decoction inhibits SARS-CoV-2 replication and accelerates the negative conversion of infected patients" now here https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-020-00197-3 and here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7406496/
I noised it abroad with this headline "Find, boil and drink this. - Honeysuckle decoction. - Redemption at hand."
From the study "600 ml water boiled with 30 g dry honeysuckle for 80 min until obtaining 200 ml HD" (Honeysuckle decoction) dose was 100 mL Honeysuckle decoction 2 times in one day. from the supplementary data "Dry honeysuckle was purchased from the local TCM store. For Honeysuckle decoction, we boiled 30 g dry honeysuckle in 600 ml water for 80 minutes and got 200 ml herb decoction."
I read this as meaning put 30 grams of dry Honeysuckle flower in 600 mL of water and boiled it at a certain heat setting such that after boiling for 80 minutes a little bit less than 400 mL of water boiled off.
So - if the decision was made to duplicate their procedure for making Honeysuckle decoction, an experiment to find a heat setting that boils off a little less than 400 mL of plain water in 80 minutes.
my note: Inhibiting viral replication is a treatment best started at first sign of any covid symptom when using safe antivirals. (I have never taken a covid test, I have never obtained any covid tests for my "covid kit") This study was done with "Moderate type patients" "All enrolled patients have pneumonia confirmed by chest computed tomography imaging. COVID-19 infection was determined by pharyngo swab quantitative RT-qPCR assay which performed by either local Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) or the designated diagnostic laboratory in the hospital.
This is the best information I found on Honeysuckle
https://www.heraldopenaccess.us/openaccess/effect-of-different-extraction-methods-on-major-bioactive-constituents-at-different-flowering-stages-of-japanese-honeysuckle-lonicera-japonica-thunb
Gumshoe-ing around China on the internet I found - In China Honeysuckle is valued as a treatment for covid-19. Considered actually "safe and effective" and sold out the instant it became available to purchase, from early on, after the study results and simple treatment protocol became known - to the dismay of the remdesivir salesman and or saleswomen who tried to disparage the use of Honeysuckle decoction as "sugar water" to increase their remdesivir sales.
I did not see this "counterpoint" until today "Decreased HD-MIR2911 absorption in human subjects with the SIDT1 polymorphism fails to inhibit SARS-CoV-2 replication" here https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-020-00206-5
Thanks for the recipe...looks like you've got to be a bit of an alchemist to make this work.
The Great Alchemist has already made it to work. It is now up to the old man and the old woman - perhaps grandma and grandpa spending time with their grandchild picking Honeysuckle flowers in the spring, then setting them on a clean towel on the floor to dry. Then, if needed, taking the dry flowers from the canning jar, putting an ounce of dry flowers and a 500 mL bottle of filtered water of in a covered pot to low simmer for an hour. Then to strain the tea into 2 cups and have a cup of tea together in the morning. Then to repeat at night and well survive covid to pick Honeysuckle flowers in the spring, again, with their grandchild.
You're a hound with a good nose to find this "counterpoint" reference. Well done.
Best not to rely on any one single modality when trying to keep the viral swarm at bay.
Yes I agree. "Best not to rely on any one single modality when trying to keep the viral swarm at bay. The "counterpoint" reference just "appeared" when I went to look for the current location of the Honeysuckle study I found on a preprint server? in 2020 as that link no longer "worked". "Influencing" what appears in "search" most probably is a reasonably economical means by which those on Higher Spiritual "inner" levels may give a bit of help. As it also is for the evil here below to censor search to harm many.
Below is my Basic Prevention "modality". Both for Prevention and for initial treatment of infection.
Then also to be treated and inhibited with some combination of Basic Treatment dosing of over the counter and generic drugs and "nutraceuticals"
Note to: The Real Doctors, True covid times Real Heros, who have developed covid treatment protocols, who treated and saved many, though who have yet "FAILED" to come together, in some manner, and write up their individual protocols as a unified,universal, all covid stage, covid "treatment ladder". with options considering availability of over the counter and generic drugs and "nutraceuticals" and clinical considerations seen in individual patients, Yes I know some about what you have gone through and that this job could be done by someone else, or team, who could outline this "ladder" for You to then illuminate with help you then give.
BASIC PREVENTION. It has worked for me. Mostly, as an older person at higher risk from covid, I avoid unnecessary exposure to "shared air" and as this is unavoidable at times -
an ounce of prevention for 165 pounds of me - hoping for high blood vitamin D3 levels in the 50 ng/mL to 90 ng/mL range with a combination of regular, and as I have not been a "good" pill taker, periodic and bolus doses averaging out to 7500 IU D3 over time and 150 mcg K2-MK7 per day when I do take a D3 dose of any amount . Plus some magnesium citrate and zinc and other supplements.
Just before indoor "shared air" exposure I 1st spray home mixed antiviral 12% xylitol in PLAIN sterile filtered water into my nose and mouth to saturation and the need to blow my nose. (a scant tsp xylitol in a 30 mL nasal pump type fine metered spray bottle such as "Snoot" brand) I use birch xylitol. Cleans nose - improves biome - reduces viral binding - antiviral activity. Plain water, not saline, seems best here per published research and confirmed in a Steve Kirsch interview with the head of Xlear, a company that produces and sells products with xylitol.
Then a few sprays of home mixed antiviral 0.5% povidone-iodine in sterile saline breathed deep as sprayed into each nostril and mouth and from a bit of a distance (aiming between the eyes at bridge of nose) a couple of sprays on to open eyes and eye area. (1 part povidone-iodine solution 10% to 19 parts saline solution note: some prefer a 1% mix 1 part povidone-iodine to 9 parts saline) Kills the damn virus. I choose more sprays, 4 into each nostril and into mouth of 0.5% (perhaps I will go to 0.6% as 1 study found more effective than 0.5%) for perhaps better wetting and coverage vs fewer sprays, 2, of 1%. I ignore trials started 5 days after testing positive, perhaps 10 days after infection that show no benefit. Probably offers good protection up to 3 hours. 1 study showed viral killing was gone at 4 hours. I found one hospital system mixing it, 0.5%, fresh every day out of concern that in solutions less than 1% the iodine, over time, may be released from the povidone bond. I understand this would make the iodine stronger and more irritating as free iodine dissolved out of the povidone. note: in Japan a 0.23% formulation is marketed. They were using it in the hospital 5 times over the course of the work day from just before starting work to just after finishing work. I give it a good shake before use, I mix a little at a time and use it up, if I had older solution and found it irritating I would mix up a new bottle. I have found the 0.5% very easy to use.
I started out from Dr George Domb, ENT https://krcrtv.com/news/local/redding-doctor-says-he-may-have-a-solution-to-prevent-transmission-of-covid-19 if it does not stay visible refresh and rapidly click on the page as it momentarily appears. He used 1/2 tsp povidone-iodine solution 10% in a 44mL squeeze bottle of saline nasal spray. His cautions for its use (for prevention) "Do not use it if you are pregnant, breastfeeding, have hyperthyroidism, are being treated for thyroid cancer with irradiated iodine, or hypersensitive to iodine. It should not be used on children younger than 6." I, personally, would certainly use it for all at the first sign of possible covid infection.
I wipe the spray nozzle and inside of the nozzle cap with a piece of tissue damped with a bit of bleach and clean out the spray bottle and sprayer using 70% isopropyl alcohol , spraying with the cap on loosely to rinse it out and shake out the bottle and spray out the sprayer then air dry before refilling.
After the xylitol and PVI sprays I put on a 3M N95 and add the side shields to my normal looking safety eye glasses - any eyeglasses help. Comfortable breathable 3M "Aura" 9205+ N95 with weak straps that break or the Aura 9210+ with probably stronger straps, both which fits the most people and which have a filtration efficiency of, see test # 644, . Keeping out 99.68% - "total leakage" through and around the mask - of salt test particles with a median size the size of a smaller single sars-cov-2 virus and within the salt test particle mix particles 30 times smaller and twice as large approximating the size of a larger single sars-cov-2 per wickedpedia sars-cov-2 size data . see Aaron Collins testing masks on youtube. Also see there how easy it actually is to adjust N95 masks for fit. I also use the 8210+ with a filtration efficiency of 99.80% see test # 636 because it is so easy to put on and take off fast and wear for a few minute "encounter" for protection from the curb side pickup "close talker" or cough or sneeze in the face. Aaron Collins has said the 3M™ VFlex™ Particulate Respirators 9100 Series was his "new favorite" because it is exceptionally breathable. It is also the lowest cost and available in 2 sizes. Mask test data available here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M0mdNLpTWEGcluK6hh5LjjcFixwmOG853Ff45d3O-L0/edit?pli=1#gid=1976839763 note: the electrostatic charge fills all the space between the fiber of the masks so that very tiny particles with little mass are easily captured by the electrostatic charge which draws the fine particles to the fibers and sticks them there. These may also be be quite effective against tiny toxic "shed" particles. note: the 95% rating is against a larger, heaver, "most penetrating" size and mass particle.
After indoor "shared air" exposure, when back home I use 1% Johnson's regular "no more tears" baby shampoo in sterile saline for nasal flush using a NeilMed 8 ounce nasal flush bottle, for eye wash from palm of clean hand or eye wash cup - blinking a lot and for mouthwash/gargle. (1 tsp/5mL baby shampoo per ~16 ounces/500 mL saline) then, as you will, a few sprays of PVI. The baby shampoo in saline is a viral killer and good cleaner. I may also nebulize a few mL (8 ml?) of regular vodka - easy to do after a few partial "diluted" 1/2 breaths. I use the Philips respironics "InnoSpire Elegance", no prescription needed from some on line suppliers, low cost 100% duty cycle . I think this would be better, easier to breathe, if enough "saline mix" was added to the vodka to convert the 60% water fraction in the vodka to normal saline. note: A anti-covid ethanol nebulization study states that nebulization creates such tiny particles that the ethanol and water separate by rapid evaporation into very high percent ethanol and water. note: I think that if the right amount of baking soda / salt saline mix was added to dissolve in the water component of vodka, in addition to outright killing of the virus some additional inhibition of viral cell entry and inhibition of viral replication in the cell could be possible. note: Nebulation is a key to therapeutic delivery of covid-19 prevention and treatment including, per Dr Zelenko and David Scheim PhD, hydroxychloroquine where as few as 1 or 2 pills worth of HCQ nebulized almost immediately builds the therapeutic effect, and more, of a full course of pills without potential systemic side effects or contraindications.
For saline I use 1 part baking soda 3 parts salt which is close to the NeilMed formula for saline mix.
(by measuring a couple of NeilMed saline mix packs) to make 2 cups/16 ounces/500mL 1/4 tsp baking soda 3/4 tsp salt. I boil the water from a 500 mL bottle of filtered water for a few minutes, let it cool down then add the baking soda and salt. I let it cool till just warm because heat chemically changes baking soda.
IMO Very much worth the effort for the high risk. Actually simple after a routine has been established. Most all may actually be at risk over the long term from some "spike" pathology even from "mild" covid and also from the spike "vaccine" antigen.
ps. the 2 times per day nasal flush study that reduced hospitalization of covid sick older high risk people by 8 times added either 1/2 tsp of povidone-iodine solution 10% OR 1/2 tsp of baking soda to 1 cup/8 fluid ounces of "normal" (NeilMed) saline. Both the povidone-iodine and the alkalizing baking soda mix worked ~ equally well.
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Thanks. Great information. One can never have enough Intel when dealing with the quasispecies swarm. Here is one for you (which you are likely well aware of due to the extensive nature of your research)
Eat Leeks (if for no other reason that they are rather tasty).
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354224000640
Thanks. So clear, if we had Real public health departments they could easily have come up with save and effective options to stop this in 2020. So clear they chose not to.
Addition to my comment on BASIC PREVENTION
Keys are 1) Keep it out - Avoidance, N95 and eye protection 2) Kill it before and if it gets in - povidone-iodine, ethanol, and soap/detergent/baby shampoo, isopropyl alcohol 3) Stop entry into the cell - Add raise PH over 6.8 baking soda, and any number of other options to stop entry into the cell 4) Stop replication in the cell if it gets in - Add hypertonic saline, probably simply ~2 times "normal" concentration, and any number of other options to stop replication in the cell
I first used home mixed antiviral azelastine eye drops and recently the 0.5% povidone-iodine / saline spray for eyes. Which is better? I do not know. Azelastine was shown early on to be an effective sars-cov-2 antiviral at the prescribed concentration (which prescribed concentration was not referenced). The prescribed concentration for eye drops is 0.05%. The new over the counter "Astepro Allergy" azelastine nasal spray is 0.15% azelastine, even stronger than the prescription version azelastine nasal spray. (good for your covid kit) At walmart I bought Astepro and a 0.5 FL OZ (15 mL) "Sterile Artificial Tears" which I used, I also bought the Equate 0.5 FL OZ (15 mL) "Dry Eye Relief" (or your choice or sterile saline?) Wash first and sterilize hands with 70% isopropyl alcohol and all - syringe,tsp measure if used, dish to put bottle tops on. I first shook the bottles a bit and let them sit to settle. I wiggled off the top of the eye drop bottle gripping it with a piece of paper towel wet with 70% isopropyl alcohol. I poured out and discared 1 tsp / 5 mL. I unscrewed the Astepro top, put it on the plate and poured to fill the 1 tsp / 5 mL.measuring spoon and used a sterilized syringe (it was not marked with graduations) to put this into the eye drop bottle. There has been no visible (clear bottle) change in this mixed, now antiviral eye drop solution for over a year.
note: A study shows adding such as ~1% Johnson's regular baby shampoo (1 tsp/5ml per 500 mL) to 70% isopropyl alcohol improves its efficacy as a hand sanitizer. The 70% version evaporates slower SO it has more viral killing "dwell time" on hands. Probably the better (vs 91%) choice for budget hand sanitizer application. I have found no drawbacks to adding 1% Johnson's baby shampoo to 70% isopropyl alcohol for home mixed hand sanitizer.
Review of the use of nasal and oral antiseptics during a global pandemic https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7842245/
When considering a combination of both baking soda and salt - for some applications some combination which both raises PH above 6.8 around the cell area it contacts and has a saline concentration of around 1.5% or so is indicated in Light of some of the references below.
Hypertonic saline solution inhibits SARS-CoV-2 in vitro assay https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.04.235549v2 "Our data shows that 260 mM NaCl (1.5%) inhibits 100% SARS-CoV-2 replication in Vero cells. Furthermore, our results suggest that the virus replication inhibition is due to an intracellular mechanism and not due to the dissociation between spike SARS-CoV-2 protein and its human receptor angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 interaction. NaCl depolarizes the plasma membrane supposedly associated with the inhibition of the SARS-CoV-2 life cycle. This observation could lead to simple, safe and low cost interventions at various stages of COVID-19 treatment, improving the prognosis of infected patients, thereby mitigating the social and economic costs of the pandemic." my note: saline does not block viral entry via ACE2.
my note: when the cell is "flooded" with hypertonic saline this causes the cell to redirect cell energy the virus is using for replication to use that cell energy to re-balance the sodium concentration in the cell thereby stopping viral replication use of that cell energy as this "re-balance" process proceeds.
SARS-CoV-2 requires acidic pH to infect cells https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36048924/ "we show that fusion and genome penetration require virion exposure to an acidic milieu of pH 6.2 to 6.8, .... . We define a key role of an acidic environment for successful infection, found in endosomal compartments and at the surface of TMPRSS2-expressing cells in the acidic milieu of the nasal cavity." "pH catheter placed in the left and right nasal cavities of 17 healthy male and female volunteers, we found a mildly acidic pH of around 6.6"
Lowering the transmission and spread of human coronavirus https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.26514 " A 1% baby shampoo nasal rinse solution inactivated HCoV greater than 99.9% with a 2-min contact time."
I also ignore (EXCEPT FOR A BIT OF TRUTH NOTED BELOW) such as this typical mis dis mal information "study" from bioweapon baric and the bioweapon baric gain of function gang and colleagues at the university of north carolina at chapel hill et al. "Pharmacokinetic‐based failure of a detergent virucidal for severe acute respiratory syndrome–coronavirus‐2 (SARS‐CoV‐2) nasal infections: A preclinical study and randomized controlled trial" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9011886/ ( SOUNDS REAL "OFFICIAL") They started the trial much much too late to show benefit and they only tested for viral load reduction in nasal cells just inside the opening of the nostrils. The only area tested was "(about 2cm) or until you feel resistance". into the nose "with self‐administered mid‐turbinate swabs"
"The primary outcome measure in the clinical trial was change in SARS‐CoV‐2 viral load over 21 days" The earliest swabbing was 3 to 4 days after they tested positive so perhaps 10 days after infection - so way too late. People collected and then stored the swabs at home for weeks.before sending them in. Wonder of wonder no difference between the control and "experimental" groups.
BIT OF TRUTH from the "study" note: J&J = Johnson & Johnson regular baby shampoo "(Figure 2A,B). Having identified a nontoxic concentration of J&J/S (½ tsp J&J/240 ml saline), we then showed that this concentration of J&J/S exhibited robust virucidal activity against SARS‐CoV‐2 at varying titers (Figure 2C). Further assays of virucidal activity demonstrated that this concentration was also virucidal in vitro against NL63 coronavirus and respiratory syncytial virus (Supplementary Figure 2A,B).
note: they used 2 packets of NeiMed saline mix in 240mL of water to make a hypertonic saline - 1 packet in 240mL / 8 fluid ounces / 1 cup makes normal saline.
As we know "they" also did this type study to discredit all Real early treatment, Real ER treatment, Real in hospital treatment and most everything actually useful to stop hospitalization and death including a povidone-iodine is bad (overdosed) "study" that only showed using much more povidone-iodine than needed caused a temporary, quickly reversed, elevation of thyroid markers. There was even an obvious "set-up" "povidone-iodine is bad " website to push that "study" ... All adding evidence in the Provable - Depraved-heart mass murder of millions. see Depraved-heart murder definition at wickedpedia here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depraved-heart_murder
If only the nectar is safe, what part are they using?
The whole dry honeysuckle flower is used to make a simple boiled Honeysuckle decoction.
Please see my comment somewhere among the first 14 comments. It has most everything someone needs to know (except where and when the closest Honeysuckle blooms) on the "how to" and a starting point for a demonstrated safe and effective dose. I would think dosing more than over just one day, as the study used, has been done and safe and even more effectiveness achieved depending on if more doses are needed depending on the 1/2 life of active agent. Such as the 1st day doses as used and then perhaps 1/2 that amount for 4 days? Something to search out when Honeysuckle flowers are in hand or at hand.
Thanks - my honeysuckle is blooming now.... only I'll have to research if all varieties are good to use. I've got the pink/yellow/white flowered cultivar.
With the pink yours sounds more like common honeysuckle (Lonicera periclymenum). I found just a few limited references to the medicinal use of this variety, none "scientific". I found very little reference to the medicinal use of any of the many varieties of honeysuckle. It seems once Lonicera japonica was identified as the medicinal variety little science has been done with the many other varieties.
Perhaps Lonicera japonica is also blooming now in your area.
probably... and no incentive to delve deeper
An interesting thing about japanese honeysuckle is that it hosts deer ticks. there are several studies on this. pretty much the whole of the old hardwood forest across southern ohio and probably indiana and illinois is now a waste land of japanese honeysuckle. The deer like to bed down in the patches because they like small bushes that rustle when predators get into them. they have relative immunity to borellia. Honeysuckle is a traditional southern folk remedy for acute disease from damp heat in the summer--somewhat lethargic presentation, like the homeopathic remedy Gelsemium. Skullcap-forsythia-honeysuckle is one of the great TCM antivirals and was sold out quickly in the first year of the pandemic.
Can also be found under the Chinese Pin Yin name: Jin Yin Hua. It is traditionally used with another Chinese antiviral, Forsythia Lian Qiao, which you might recall is the novel antiviral that Jude Law peddles in Contagion
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10267938/
Was this study ever completed?
This is one of numbers that were completed. Efficacy and safety of Lianhuaqingwen capsules, a repurposed Chinese herb, in patients with coronavirus disease 2019: A multicenter, prospective, randomized controlled trial here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7229744/
Please see my comment somewhere among the first 14 comments here for a Honeysuckle for covid "how to" and my reply to another comment here for an additional thought on determining best dose of "The whole dry honeysuckle flower is used to make a simple boiled Honeysuckle decoction." (for covid)
Skullcap-forsythia-honeysuckle is a basic TCM antiviral and was widely used in the initial covid outbreak, enough so that skullcap became impossible to get.
thanks for this. pretty impressive. open label is one shortcoming
those capsules available in the US?
I do not know anything about "those capsules". But I do know Honeysuckle blooms in the Spring and Honeysuckle flowers are free for the picking in areas across the world. Please do read my honeysuckle post somewhere in the first 14 posts to this comment section. It is the one beginning Ponder on - the teaching of preemption of the cycle as it applies to boiling up remedies ....... Honeysuckle blooms in the Spring.
The "Ponder on - the teaching of preemption of the cycle as it applies to boiling up remedies ......." was the heading I used to forward this "preemption of the cycle of viral replication" Honeysuckle study, on August 6, 2020, into the Spiritual Group of 10,000 of which I Am, a somewhat "removed", member. These 10,000 are well aware of "the teaching of preemption of the cycle" reference as "preemption of the cycle" is a chief strategy employed by evil at "inner levels" against those of "The Light". evil at "inner levels" working, historically, through "embodied evil" pursuing evil occupation to fulfill their individual inordinate, evil desires. Though It does seem, increasingly, that the embodied evil now are working within the increasingly "full" understanding of the plan of evil, from inner levels for the total control, genetically engineered, depopulated, dystopian "earth" which is the goal of evil at inner levels for the complete "mining" of the Light of those of God embodied on earth.
Yes, I understand. What is this? If you choose - Please check my substack later this year to see if I have been able, there, to provide a full context within which a better understanding may be gained of the specific "Strategies Of Light And Darkness" which are in play in this Epic Battle for the Future of Life on Earth. The Strategies Of Light, preempted, not yet understood. The Strategies of darkness now increasingly seen by many.
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Hi Mr. Chesnut...Well, this post was certainly an interesting one...made me do a little snooping around. It appears (?), although not completely clear, that the intriguing compound, 4'-O-Methylochnaflavone, associated with detrimental effects on Pl(Pro) comes from the FLOWERS of Lonicera japonica.
I wish some of the scientific references would be more explicit on exactly what was tested (flowers, leaves, stem, root, etc...). The wiki reference on Lonicera japonica that you've included in your post suggests other parts of the herb "...have the potential to be toxic."
Of course, 'the dose makes the poison'.
So, I am going to assume the benefit comes from the flowers of Lonicera japonica unless you feel like correcting me if I've got this wrong.
Anyway, thanks for your hard work in attempting to keep the quasispecies viral swarm from killing us all which it most certainly is trying to do.
wickedpedia worked hard to refine its mis dis and mal information with this "While the nectar from the flowers can be safely consumed by humans, all other parts of the plant have the potential to be toxic.[7]" by clicking on the seven then by going to the source which says
"Nectar can be sucked from flowers without harm. Flowers are an ingredient in some Chinese dishes." and lower in the reference "TOXIC ONLY IF LARGE QUANTITIES EATEN."
wickedpedia also failed to mention that most all treated for covid in china received some form of honeysuckle flower and that it is highly regarded as safe and effective treatment for covid in China.
Yes, the flower is used. I have posted among the first 14 comments a "Honeysuckle study with "how to" made and dose Honeysuckle decoction. and in another reply here a suggestion to look for additional dosing protocols.
Interesting how it is an 'invasive species' at a time when many people may require it!
Sounds simply delicious as described in tasting the nectar fresh from the source...
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Just saw this article and there you are:) good one! I have some growing on my fence, and always loved to eat the nectar as a child. You just pick a flower, then pinch the bottom to grab hold of the pistole that runs up to the top, then gently pull that downward and a drop of nectar will come out the bottom. Then you just suck that drop off of the bottom of the flower. Tastes like honey:) who knew it was medicinal! I was always healthy lol.
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What is with all this medicines?I heard remdesivir can kill people.But Natokinasse and Ivermectin should help.What is against Graphenoxid,can I detox it from my body?