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Ol' Doc Skepsis's avatar

Sorry to see your comments still getting douche-bombed. Keep fighting.

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Ponder on - the teaching of preemption of the cycle as it applies to boiling up remedies .......

Honeysuckle blooms in the Spring.

I remember when this hit the servers on August 5, 2020. "Absorbed plant MIR2911 in honeysuckle decoction inhibits SARS-CoV-2 replication and accelerates the negative conversion of infected patients" now here https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-020-00197-3 and here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7406496/

I noised it abroad with this headline "Find, boil and drink this. - Honeysuckle decoction. - Redemption at hand."

From the study "600 ml water boiled with 30 g dry honeysuckle for 80 min until obtaining 200 ml HD" (Honeysuckle decoction) dose was 100 mL Honeysuckle decoction 2 times in one day. from the supplementary data "Dry honeysuckle was purchased from the local TCM store. For Honeysuckle decoction, we boiled 30 g dry honeysuckle in 600 ml water for 80 minutes and got 200 ml herb decoction."

I read this as meaning put 30 grams of dry Honeysuckle flower in 600 mL of water and boiled it at a certain heat setting such that after boiling for 80 minutes a little bit less than 400 mL of water boiled off.

So - if the decision was made to duplicate their procedure for making Honeysuckle decoction, an experiment to find a heat setting that boils off a little less than 400 mL of plain water in 80 minutes.

my note: Inhibiting viral replication is a treatment best started at first sign of any covid symptom when using safe antivirals. (I have never taken a covid test, I have never obtained any covid tests for my "covid kit") This study was done with "Moderate type patients" "All enrolled patients have pneumonia confirmed by chest computed tomography imaging. COVID-19 infection was determined by pharyngo swab quantitative RT-qPCR assay which performed by either local Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) or the designated diagnostic laboratory in the hospital.

This is the best information I found on Honeysuckle

https://www.heraldopenaccess.us/openaccess/effect-of-different-extraction-methods-on-major-bioactive-constituents-at-different-flowering-stages-of-japanese-honeysuckle-lonicera-japonica-thunb

Gumshoe-ing around China on the internet I found - In China Honeysuckle is valued as a treatment for covid-19. Considered actually "safe and effective" and sold out the instant it became available to purchase, from early on, after the study results and simple treatment protocol became known - to the dismay of the remdesivir salesman and or saleswomen who tried to disparage the use of Honeysuckle decoction as "sugar water" to increase their remdesivir sales.

I did not see this "counterpoint" until today "Decreased HD-MIR2911 absorption in human subjects with the SIDT1 polymorphism fails to inhibit SARS-CoV-2 replication" here https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-020-00206-5

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