Thank you for pointing out the fact that athletes are more susceptible to injury from the vaccines. I have a hypothesis that the reason may be because athletes have far better developed motor neurons in the spinal cord with strong axons that connect to muscle cells in the deltoid muscle. Muscle cells, especially under stress conditions, release exosomes into the neuromuscular junction, and these exosomes are picked up by the axon and transported back to the motor neuron in the spinal cord. It has been shown that the mRNA in mRNA vaccines can be exported intact into exosomes and delivered to distance cells. Exosomes are taken up by axons and actively transported by molecular motors to the soma of the neuron. A relay could further transport the mRNA to other neurons in the brain stem to adversely impact high level regulatory control of the whole body. So I suspect that there is a much more prominent pathway for this form of distribution of the spike mRNA in those whose arm muscles are well developed.
Do we have any data demonstrating athletes are more susceptible?
I am involved in ice hockey ... I am aware of a few players who have heart damage... but outside of the hockey community I know a whole lot more with a wide range of vax injuries...
And I would know more people involved in hockey versus outside of the community
do you see evidence that they are more affected by long cOVID than the non athletes group? I do not see that. So far they are all functioning, they have minor issues so far.....and most probably females will be the first to notice.
no, i mean having covid virus for more than 6 months, studies show about 40% of people have long covid. Long covid means you have a virus for a long period of time in the body and you can not clean it up. you may have minor issues you do not even notice, asymptomatic is what this is called, until suddenly something hurts, or usually people get heart attacks or pneumonia in summer months, or swollen ankles those sort of things
Thank you for this. I would never consider myself an elite athlete, but I was definitely perplexed that I developed long COVID at 44 when I was perhaps the fittest I had ever been, eating a Mediterranean diet for 20+ years and exercising 6-7 days per week (about half that time at high intensity). That my first symptoms were severe shortness of breath and lung “burn” were even more confusing. The exercise intolerance I have experienced has also felt like a cruel joke. I am only now, in year five, able to walk slowly on a treadmill for 20 minutes. I am still doing mild strength training in a supine position so as not to trigger my POTS and PEM.
Yes! At 55, I have spent my entire adult life teaching and working in early education. 2021- masked and teaching 1 and 2 year olds- you never sit still in that profession. I did it for 30 years. In 2022, I was rowing on my Hydrow daily. And walking before/after work. Nothing but good health. Until my only infection. I still have a muscular body. People can’t imagine why I can’t walk easily. It is perplexing that sedentary folks are fine. I lived fully in my body. Didn’t own a car for years (walked to my teaching job—40+ hours then with 16 three and four year old children). I miss moving.
Amy, I'm wondering whether you've tried a spike protein detox procedure such as Dr. Peter McCullough's "Base Spike Detoxification" or chiropractor Brian Ardis's nicotine protocol; or any of the FLCCC's recommendations for treatment of COVID vaccine injury. Some people are experiencing significant improvements from these treatments.
You might also be interested in the comment I posted above, about autoimmunity.
Thank you, Kayla. I found your autoimmunity comment interesting. I have noticed in the numerous recovery interviews I have watched that there are a disproportionate number of marathon runners, triathletes, and other athletes among both those afflicted but also among those who do eventually recover.
I just looked up the FLCCC and I happen to be taking almost everything on that list. I was also on IncellDx’s cocktail in 2021 of maraviroc/statin/ivermectin. I do think this cleared my S1 proteins but I crashed very hard anyway. I still needed to pace and reset my nervous system, which I have spent the past year doing and I’ve been seeing good progress.
You ask a necessary question. For purposes of treatment and diagnosis vaccination status and shedding should always be part of the discussion - not in a judgmental way but for analysis, diagnosis and treatment. We'll all have to help each other.
I hadn't quite registered previously that elite athletes were suffering "extra" from exposure to spike protein.. This ROS/NO explanation makes sense. However, there's another possibility that I think is worth a good look; and perhaps it could occur alongside the ROS/NO mechanism?
In the early days of the Gardasil vaccine for HPV, many injuries were being reported along the vaccinees. In Denmark, a special clinic was set up for the worst-affected HPV-vaccine-injured girls and young women. A doctor in that clinic was interviewed for a documentary, and she stated that 75% of the clinic's patients had (pre-HPV-vaccination) been elite athletes, often regional champions in their sports.
Now, according to a doctor who resigned from the HPV vaccine research effort, it was well known among the researchers that there were over 20 "molecular mimicries" between the HPV Type 16 and human proteins -- so there would be a high risk that any vaccine that targeted HPV Type 16 would lead to autoimmunity. In other words, the vaccine would provoke the vaccinee's immune system to attack some of her own body's proteins.
It struck me, as I thought about the HPV vaccine injuries, that to be an elite athlete, you'd have to have a strong and energetic body. And you'd expect a strong and energetic body to have a strong and energetic immune system. And if your immune system started attacking proteins in your own body, it would not be an advantage to have a strong and energetic immune system. In fact, it would be quite a disadvantage.
Haven't some physicians / researchers re: the COVID vaccines hypothesized that these vaccines are triggering autoimmune disease in some people who receive them? (I think I remember reading that there were quite a few molecular mimicries between at least the original [Wuhan strain] spike protein and human proteins.) Has that hypothesis been proven or disproven? If autoimmunity is one of the frequent side effects of COVID vaccines, then wouldn't it be logical that elite athletes would have a worse time with this side effect because their strong and energetic immune systems would more effectively attack and damage their own bodies?
I’m not sure it bears out that having a strong, conditioned body necessarily means one has a strong immune system. But if it does, think about this: many if not most long haulers’ immune systems overreacted to the virus, or didn’t turn off after the virus was gone. A “strong” immune system seems to not be what we want. We want a merely adequate immune system, a Goldilocks immune system: not too strong, not too weak, but just right.
I think what we really want is a strong but well-regulated immune system. Vaccinations of all types *dysregulate* the immune system. Sometimes the dysregulation appears to resolve, but sometimes it becomes permanent. Vaccine-induced immune dysregulation features decreased immunity to pathogens, increased allergy, increased risk of autoimmunity, and impaired surveillance and destruction of "rogue cells" (cancer).
I'm a physicist with a BS degree, and pre-covid, only vaguely remembered high school biology. Since then, I've been reading a lot and picked up some books on the Immune system. For anyone looking for a good introduction, I highly recommend, "Immune" by Philip Dettmer. He is not a bio guy, he is a professional writer, and he has written a very understandable and easy to read book. Got the details right. Very good book.
One of the more interesting aspects of the immune system is the most common type of white blood cell, the Neutrophils. They travel in the blood stream and need to be trigged by signals from the endothelium, first to slow down by rolling along the blood vessel walls and then to be trigged to stop and force their way through the endothelial cells lining the blood vessels to find and attack the infections that triggered the cytokine signals.
Activated neutrophils are not very discriminating. They throw themselves into the battle, kill stuff and die. Their dead remains show up as puss. There are a lot of them. They can kill good cells. They have a short lifespan to limit the damage.
When the endothelial cells are attacked by the spike protein, they might release cytokines to call for help. Or they might just show spike antignes on their MHC1 flags. Other cells of the immune system will release cytoclines when they detect the invastion of foreign antigens. Activation of the neutrophils will end up destroying the local capillaries. Mess up the endothelial cells and expect to activate the neutrophils. They will come in to kill and destroy stuff.
no, at its core it is epithelial disease and there are numerous studies that confirm this, almost all of them, but for some strange reason science community can not even label the disease correctly.
Thanks again, Walter, for another interesting piece.
[What SHOULD be protecting us from COVID and the Spike Protein, a healthy lifestyle, diet and exercise, seems to fail those who are elite athletes.]
We might want to consider what we mean by "healthy."
I would suggest that due the the intensity levels and training regimens "required" to compete, many [most?] elite athletes are teetering at the edge of disease in many ways.
Please remain on your sofas and continue ordering 341 Dominos pizza with sides of KFC washed down with Big Gulps while watching reruns of American Idol ... that will keep ya'll Safe (and Effective)
Thank you for pointing out the fact that athletes are more susceptible to injury from the vaccines. I have a hypothesis that the reason may be because athletes have far better developed motor neurons in the spinal cord with strong axons that connect to muscle cells in the deltoid muscle. Muscle cells, especially under stress conditions, release exosomes into the neuromuscular junction, and these exosomes are picked up by the axon and transported back to the motor neuron in the spinal cord. It has been shown that the mRNA in mRNA vaccines can be exported intact into exosomes and delivered to distance cells. Exosomes are taken up by axons and actively transported by molecular motors to the soma of the neuron. A relay could further transport the mRNA to other neurons in the brain stem to adversely impact high level regulatory control of the whole body. So I suspect that there is a much more prominent pathway for this form of distribution of the spike mRNA in those whose arm muscles are well developed.
Thank you, Stephanie. I agree. In fact, it is very likely both factors (perhaps others?) are at work, creating a "perfect storm."
Do we have any data demonstrating athletes are more susceptible?
I am involved in ice hockey ... I am aware of a few players who have heart damage... but outside of the hockey community I know a whole lot more with a wide range of vax injuries...
And I would know more people involved in hockey versus outside of the community
do you see evidence that they are more affected by long cOVID than the non athletes group? I do not see that. So far they are all functioning, they have minor issues so far.....and most probably females will be the first to notice.
By long covid you mean vaccine injured - right?
no, i mean having covid virus for more than 6 months, studies show about 40% of people have long covid. Long covid means you have a virus for a long period of time in the body and you can not clean it up. you may have minor issues you do not even notice, asymptomatic is what this is called, until suddenly something hurts, or usually people get heart attacks or pneumonia in summer months, or swollen ankles those sort of things
Thank you for this. I would never consider myself an elite athlete, but I was definitely perplexed that I developed long COVID at 44 when I was perhaps the fittest I had ever been, eating a Mediterranean diet for 20+ years and exercising 6-7 days per week (about half that time at high intensity). That my first symptoms were severe shortness of breath and lung “burn” were even more confusing. The exercise intolerance I have experienced has also felt like a cruel joke. I am only now, in year five, able to walk slowly on a treadmill for 20 minutes. I am still doing mild strength training in a supine position so as not to trigger my POTS and PEM.
Yes! At 55, I have spent my entire adult life teaching and working in early education. 2021- masked and teaching 1 and 2 year olds- you never sit still in that profession. I did it for 30 years. In 2022, I was rowing on my Hydrow daily. And walking before/after work. Nothing but good health. Until my only infection. I still have a muscular body. People can’t imagine why I can’t walk easily. It is perplexing that sedentary folks are fine. I lived fully in my body. Didn’t own a car for years (walked to my teaching job—40+ hours then with 16 three and four year old children). I miss moving.
Amy, I'm wondering whether you've tried a spike protein detox procedure such as Dr. Peter McCullough's "Base Spike Detoxification" or chiropractor Brian Ardis's nicotine protocol; or any of the FLCCC's recommendations for treatment of COVID vaccine injury. Some people are experiencing significant improvements from these treatments.
You might also be interested in the comment I posted above, about autoimmunity.
Thank you, Kayla. I found your autoimmunity comment interesting. I have noticed in the numerous recovery interviews I have watched that there are a disproportionate number of marathon runners, triathletes, and other athletes among both those afflicted but also among those who do eventually recover.
I just looked up the FLCCC and I happen to be taking almost everything on that list. I was also on IncellDx’s cocktail in 2021 of maraviroc/statin/ivermectin. I do think this cleared my S1 proteins but I crashed very hard anyway. I still needed to pace and reset my nervous system, which I have spent the past year doing and I’ve been seeing good progress.
Been close to Vaxxers? Shedding?
You ask a necessary question. For purposes of treatment and diagnosis vaccination status and shedding should always be part of the discussion - not in a judgmental way but for analysis, diagnosis and treatment. We'll all have to help each other.
I hadn't quite registered previously that elite athletes were suffering "extra" from exposure to spike protein.. This ROS/NO explanation makes sense. However, there's another possibility that I think is worth a good look; and perhaps it could occur alongside the ROS/NO mechanism?
In the early days of the Gardasil vaccine for HPV, many injuries were being reported along the vaccinees. In Denmark, a special clinic was set up for the worst-affected HPV-vaccine-injured girls and young women. A doctor in that clinic was interviewed for a documentary, and she stated that 75% of the clinic's patients had (pre-HPV-vaccination) been elite athletes, often regional champions in their sports.
Now, according to a doctor who resigned from the HPV vaccine research effort, it was well known among the researchers that there were over 20 "molecular mimicries" between the HPV Type 16 and human proteins -- so there would be a high risk that any vaccine that targeted HPV Type 16 would lead to autoimmunity. In other words, the vaccine would provoke the vaccinee's immune system to attack some of her own body's proteins.
It struck me, as I thought about the HPV vaccine injuries, that to be an elite athlete, you'd have to have a strong and energetic body. And you'd expect a strong and energetic body to have a strong and energetic immune system. And if your immune system started attacking proteins in your own body, it would not be an advantage to have a strong and energetic immune system. In fact, it would be quite a disadvantage.
Haven't some physicians / researchers re: the COVID vaccines hypothesized that these vaccines are triggering autoimmune disease in some people who receive them? (I think I remember reading that there were quite a few molecular mimicries between at least the original [Wuhan strain] spike protein and human proteins.) Has that hypothesis been proven or disproven? If autoimmunity is one of the frequent side effects of COVID vaccines, then wouldn't it be logical that elite athletes would have a worse time with this side effect because their strong and energetic immune systems would more effectively attack and damage their own bodies?
I’m not sure it bears out that having a strong, conditioned body necessarily means one has a strong immune system. But if it does, think about this: many if not most long haulers’ immune systems overreacted to the virus, or didn’t turn off after the virus was gone. A “strong” immune system seems to not be what we want. We want a merely adequate immune system, a Goldilocks immune system: not too strong, not too weak, but just right.
I just reread your comment and it seems we are saying the same thing, so disregard.
I think what we really want is a strong but well-regulated immune system. Vaccinations of all types *dysregulate* the immune system. Sometimes the dysregulation appears to resolve, but sometimes it becomes permanent. Vaccine-induced immune dysregulation features decreased immunity to pathogens, increased allergy, increased risk of autoimmunity, and impaired surveillance and destruction of "rogue cells" (cancer).
Extreme exercise, which by definition one must do to become an elite athlete, is not healthy.
See my comment that Vaxxers need to remain on the sofa with buckets of KFC
Brilliant, Dr. Chestnut! In a just world, this would be Nobel Prize-worthy research.
I'm a physicist with a BS degree, and pre-covid, only vaguely remembered high school biology. Since then, I've been reading a lot and picked up some books on the Immune system. For anyone looking for a good introduction, I highly recommend, "Immune" by Philip Dettmer. He is not a bio guy, he is a professional writer, and he has written a very understandable and easy to read book. Got the details right. Very good book.
One of the more interesting aspects of the immune system is the most common type of white blood cell, the Neutrophils. They travel in the blood stream and need to be trigged by signals from the endothelium, first to slow down by rolling along the blood vessel walls and then to be trigged to stop and force their way through the endothelial cells lining the blood vessels to find and attack the infections that triggered the cytokine signals.
Activated neutrophils are not very discriminating. They throw themselves into the battle, kill stuff and die. Their dead remains show up as puss. There are a lot of them. They can kill good cells. They have a short lifespan to limit the damage.
When the endothelial cells are attacked by the spike protein, they might release cytokines to call for help. Or they might just show spike antignes on their MHC1 flags. Other cells of the immune system will release cytoclines when they detect the invastion of foreign antigens. Activation of the neutrophils will end up destroying the local capillaries. Mess up the endothelial cells and expect to activate the neutrophils. They will come in to kill and destroy stuff.
no, at its core it is epithelial disease and there are numerous studies that confirm this, almost all of them, but for some strange reason science community can not even label the disease correctly.
Thanks again, Walter, for another interesting piece.
[What SHOULD be protecting us from COVID and the Spike Protein, a healthy lifestyle, diet and exercise, seems to fail those who are elite athletes.]
We might want to consider what we mean by "healthy."
I would suggest that due the the intensity levels and training regimens "required" to compete, many [most?] elite athletes are teetering at the edge of disease in many ways.
In relation to the exosomes and neuromuscular junctions/axonal uptake to motor neuron: What do you think of the Dystonia connection? I saw Runners' Dystonia in some road race participants I ran with, and read accounts of :https://www.runnersworld.com/health-injuries/a20865203/runners-dystonia-mysterious-malady-causes-mind-and-muscle-to-lose-touch/ https://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/a39302035/kara-goucher-runners-dystonia/ Curious about causes/treatments for runner I know; I looked at this website: https://www.fariastechnique.com/media-dystonia-treatment#press-dystonia-treatment...I don't know anything about this Dr. Farias' treatment; but there are some scientific references that may be of interest and are not limited to athletes; also musicians, writers, etc.
Exercise can also activate mast cells. I wonder if the mast cell mediators are overreacting even more so because of the spike protein.
Miracle!!!!
Let's take a look at Donald Trump's Ear
Seemingly No Injury...
https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/lets-take-a-look-at-donald-trumps
Attention Brain Dead Vaxxers - Attention.
Please remain on your sofas and continue ordering 341 Dominos pizza with sides of KFC washed down with Big Gulps while watching reruns of American Idol ... that will keep ya'll Safe (and Effective)
Over and out https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/the-dumbest-species-ever
I posted your Substack article to Truth Social and a follower asked this question:
Does this mean that someone who had the shot should avoid intense exercise?