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Speaking as a former type 2 diabetic, who has lost 60 pounds, I disagree. The real problem is the unhealthy government food pyramid and processed foods. Switching to keto/intermittent fasting (lunch and dinner only, no snacks) not only allows me to control my blood sugar levels without medication, but has made it easy to keep the weight off.

I also make a point of going for a walk every day and getting enough sleep.

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Thank you for your comment. What you have done is actually proving my point. You must be on this regimen for the rest of your life, to permanently treat your obesity. That being said, the food pyramid may be a trigger in genetically predisposed individuals.

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I agree that I'm genetically predisposed and I will need to keep doing this for the rest of my life, but I don't see this a regimen as such. The food tastes good and the meals are satiating. Best of all, these days I rarely think about food in between meals.

When I was eating a low-fat, high-carb diet (until switching to keto, I was vegetarian, sometimes even vegan, for most of my adult life) I was constantly hungry and quite obsessed with food. Insult to injury, faithfully following the guidelines for diabetics made my blood sugar levels skyrocket to the point of needing stronger and stronger meds.

Frankly, everyone would benefit from the lifestyle changes I've made. As an added bonus, cooking meals from scratch also results in avoiding all sorts of unhealthy additives and preservatives.

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Anyone who can treat a condition and feel great about it, is an absolute winner in my book. Grats, Claudia! Keep going!

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Thanks, Walter!

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I wish you wouldn't say "everyone" should make the lifestyle changes you have made. Maybe many people, but not everyone.

I have tried very low carb eating and intermittent fasting more than twenty times. Each time I kept very good records. Each time, it caused my typically very low blood pressure to skyrocket. I went online and I am not the only person that happens to; it is especially common for women. Maybe being hungry increases stress hormones?

Women in indigenous cultures do not fast as a regular thing, unlike men in such cultures who will go on long hunts without eating. The women are always eating a little something throughout the day. If there is no food at all, that is a physical signal that times are very, very, very bad - and their hormone levels become more "male" (well, I found a study of rats where the hormonal shift happened with female rats, but it wouldn't surprise me if it also happened with human females).

My answer is to eat fruits, vegetables, eggs, dairy, nuts, a little meat and fish and some whole grains, but to avoid potatoes, crackers, cookies, pretzels, corn, and pasta. I am slim enough this way and I just took my blood pressure and it was 103/61.

Bit, it is wonderful that your system is working for you, and I am sure that there are many people it would work for.

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You're absolutely right, I shouldn't have said keto/IR is the answer for everyone. I'm glad that you have found something that works for you!

That said, I definitely do believe that regular sleep and exercise are fundamental to good health.

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Haha, I am not going to come up with a counterargument about the need for sleep and exercise . . .

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PS basically no human being should consume any processed foods. That right there is half the battle of this "disease" which it is not.

Smashing a box of Triscuits is literally a perversion of nature and leads to the obesity epidemic.

You can thank the spurious food pyramid which as all evil things in life was propagandized by the government.

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easier said than done ... but hey, cest la vie ...

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i've done it with people.

what's hard is eating processed shit for years which seems so easy as function of bad conditioning.

it's like kicking drugs -- it's hard at first, but then it gets easier. or suffer in comfortable uncomfortableness.

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true, i remember a month or so in this effort felt like i was breaking ... then walked in this restaurant and .... walking out, that was the breaking point, easier afterwards.

but as mr. chestnut states it is a life long effort ... cest la vie :-)

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brushing one's teeth is also a lifelong effort.

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The food pyramid just like "vaccines" is reality inversion.

Yes, to live a healthy lifestyle you must live a healthy lifestyle.

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true, i tried and lost 40 pound in 6 months, it was no formula or anything, just easy exercise and regime in eating. no meal after 6pm and always being sort of :) ... never felt better, lots of energy. at the end it is a state of mind, got to want to do it (really got to get scared of smt). going back and forth, but always been able to push it back ... as you said, it is a battle for the rest of your life.

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Yes, it is. And I fight that very battle myself.

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When "treatment" simply amounts to a healthy lifestyle, it seems disingenuous to spin it:

"If you abandon this healthy lifestyle, stop moving and start overeating, you would again become obese. Therefore you have an incurable disease!"

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Her regimen sounds like heaven to me, provided I am in an appropriate area with tons of nature and great access to fresh food. Isn't the 3 meal a day a new concept, ancestrally speaking? Even the large amount of grains and sugars we consume is relatively new.

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Yes. We don’t need 3 meals a day and constant snacks. FLCCC did a little video with Mobeen Syed about One Meal a Day IF for post CoVid recovery and long CoVid. Watch it.

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I used to watch Mobeen before he jumped on the vax bandwagon. I suspect IF or better yet, fasting for a few days is the best way to clean up the clot shot garbage.

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I would say that Mobeen was very much in favor of the vaccines for a while and now he is very much NOT in favor of them. In a recent video he said something off hand about the spike protein damaging an entire generation of people. He is very upset about it.

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As recently as two weeks ago he clearly stated it his podcast he is pro vax.

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I'm with Claudia. Factors to consider include food quality, with processed and ultra-processed foods -- as many are consuming -- being destabilizing, palatability (lower stabilizes weight), and satiety (higher for weight regulation). Another factor that I encountered personally is that certain medications, specifically cholesterol lowering medications, can interfere with leptin and inhibit weight loss.

It is good to hypothesize, but much research has already been done and clear, reversible causes have been identified. When one applies the results of this research, and one's weight normalizes and remains stable, while knowing that many others have done likewise with similar results, that is pretty good validation of causality.

That almost no MD is aware of this is sad, but not surprising to those that understand how the system operates.

There can also be individual factors that complicate the situation. I have several, including a birth defect in my colon that led to major problems when I thought I was in pretty good shape after reaching and maintaining a healthy weight. I eventually -- after discovering the defect via a colonoscopy (the scope wouldn't pass all the way through!) -- was able to compensate, and my weight is now trending slightly lower than before, freeing me to address other health issues. The last time I saw these scale readings, I was a teenager, although I am only in the middle of my BMI range.

I work remotely with an MD that is aware of these things, and my labs have improved markedly as my weight has dropped. I am a week or so from 72 years old, and having a professional to work with that is mostly familiar with my peculiar health challenges, and knows what tests to run and how to read the results, is a treasure.

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Congratulations on discovering how to get better, and finding a doctor who understands your health challenges!

Many doctors push pills and other medical interventions even when lifestyle changes are safer, more effective, and cheaper.

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WTF? Yeah and all the rest of us have a terminal condition called death we kept at bay by eating healthy and exercise and developing good mental and emotional health habits so we can hopefully die older and well in our sleep. Do you have any fiduciary relationship with mega Pharma Bayer in whose website you are publishing and are they developing anti obesity drugs they hope to profit from?

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Thanks :-)

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"Leap No. 6 seeks to reverse autoimmune diseases and chronic inflammation. "

Amazing to me that once again there is no search for cause & not a single study of Bayer's own genetically engineered crops with novel proteins that express pesticides in every cell of the plant.

What happens to human gut bacteria on a diet of corn engineered to eat through the soft tissue of insects? Human health and safety tests have never been done.

Rockefeller - Gates Monsanto cabal made us a population wide feeding study decades ago. Folks not alarmed over our diets of herbicides and novel proteins, ask what the lab animals are eating.

http://web.archive.org/web/20101122021318/www.fda.gov/Food/Biotechnology/Submissions/ucm161130.htm

Nice folks at Bayer who care about cures!

The Guardian, Friday 23 May 2003

A division of the German pharmaceutical company Bayer knowingly sold blood-clotting agents infected with HIV to Asia and Latin America months after withdrawing them from Europe and the US, an American newspaper claimed yesterday.

Cutter Biological continued to dump stocks of the factor VIII blood-clotting agent for haemophiliacs on poor countries for nearly a year after introducing a safer alternative, the report in the New York Times said. https://web.archive.org/web/20130827033404/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/may/23/aids.suzannegoldenberg

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Big Food and Big Pharma sponsored by governments throughout the world have contributed to the obesity crisis. Take a look a beach scene in the 1960’s and spot the overweight people! The government advice on diet is catastrophically wrong. Type 2 diabetes has become a pandemic due to the over consumption of carbohydrates and sugar as per the food pyramid. The keto programme or at least a controlled carb intake with protein and healthy fats isn’t a diet but a healthy lifestyle that works. Mass obesity is a relatively new condition.

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What I will be endeavoring to demonstrate is that a lot of what we have done as a society has indeed INDUCED the metabolism of Obesity. Now we have an ever increasing number of humans dealing with an INDUCED, incurable disease.

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It would be great if, as one of the factors inducing the incurable disease, you could look at one of the worst offenders in pharmaceuticals: olanzapine.

There may be other common meds that are particularly at fault - maybe we could have a "10 worst meds" list. I'm not short-changing the GMO foods and food additives, but I have a lot of family history with various meds going back 40 years or more.

Thanks for your novel observations!

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eustace mullins has a book (murder by injection) covering lots of medical stuff ... can get it as pdf.

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🤯 + 😱, Walter. Speaking from experience and seeing others of my ailment/s change and struggle over time, I think it might be significant to look at long-term corticosteroid use as one potential trigger? Metabolically one’s body is never the same (I endured very high doses for seven or more years). Thank you for your brilliant persistence. 🙏You were great on gigaohm with JJC last night!! Absolutely love to see y’all riff off each other.

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Excess cortisol over time will kill pancreatic beta cells.

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you are in the wrong business my man ... you look out for human beings, so no cigar for you in this world ... am sure you will be first in line in the next one :-)

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I agree with your hypothesis. I started dieting (to be quite underweight) at age 16 and have had to eat reduced calories for 30 years-like 1000-1200 a day. I can not eat what normal people eat, or I will gain 50 pounds. I also had a strong reaction to my husband getting the covid vaccine (legs feet went numb).

I would love to know how it can be managed?

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Give me any obese person and with a combination keto and carb cycling diet, light exercise, sleep hygiene, nutraceuticals and regaining gut homeostasis along w/ (re)introduction of beneficial microbes like Pendulum Akkermansia I can cure anyone's obesity.

It is not diet as much as lifestyle and mindset recalibration. I have personally cured obese people, so long as they were were willing to change.

Certainly NOT an incurable disease. Far from it.

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Your regimen is required to keep weight gain at bay, so what he is saying is that there isn’t a cure, but there is ongoing treatment.

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It's not a treatment. It's a return to a lifestyle that accords with our natures, genetics, etc.

It's like saying to an alcoholic that the treatment is abstinence from boozing.

It's sophistry.,

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It’s still something that has to be maintained. One has to live that lifestyle in order to keep the weight off. Therefore, it’s not really a cure. And I’m sure if it were easy and enticing, everyone would do it. We’d all be slim!😃

That said, I am curious about your program because I have not found any lifestyle change effective AND permanent, and that has been incredibly frustrating.

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There are "cures" for bad lifestyle choices which are misdiagnosed as "disease."

As my obese friend motioned after a summer of eating clean said when asked how he became so svelte: he pantomimed that he shut his mouth re: eating.

Hunger pangs? Drink some water.

My program is not something for a comment. Maybe I'll write it up one day on my substack.

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Everyone else must be tied for first.

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Yes, when all added up maybe.

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Walter, you cannot jump to that conclusion based on one paper by a surgeon! You are correct in saying this: "it is the induction of DYSREGULATION." Yes, submolecular dysregulation. Autoimmune processes, depending on the tissue being targeted and the amount of irreversible destruction of the tissue before it is diagnosed, can be reversed. Obesity can be reversed. Knowing that diet is only a part of the answer. I do not have time to go into this but you just ignored quantum physics, deutenomics and so much other great wisdom. It comes down to mitochondrial dysfunction as a result of submolecular dysregulation!

This is a graduate course at the Vrije Universiteit in Amsterdam.

https://vu.nl/en/education/professionals/courses-programmes/introduction-to-sub-molecular-medical-sciences

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Just watched the JJC Gigaholm stream on twitch from last night. Excellent on both sides from you and Johnathan. The dots are all connecting and the whole picture is forming. As he surmised at the end your research on Obesity will tie in more dots for the background leading to 2020 I am sure. Far too long with specialty medicine the body functions and related disease have been compartmentalized causing a cascade of disease missed or treated incorrectly by not seeing the whole body connection.

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Fantastic suggestion it was incredible, thank you! :~)

Walter Chesnut LIVE : Gigaohm Biological High Resistance Low Noise Information Brief

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1561189057

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You are welcome. Thanks for adding the link.

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Read Jason Fung MD. IF and reversing insulin resistance is the ONLY thing that works. That’s it.

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Yes, his book "The Obesity Code" changed my life! His later book "The Diabetes Code" is also excellent.

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Diet definitely plays a major role. I've been slim my whole life [with effort and not 'easily' after puberty hit] except for when I was pregnant with my daughter and during the months I was breast feeding. Obesity is definitely genetically dominant on my mother's side of the family which keeps me in check with my eating habits. My daughter's paternal AND maternal side is majority obese but her father and herself stayed slim under my strict dietary roof until she married a hefty guy with poor diet habits and within three years of consuming his diet she became obese. :( She now struggles just to maintain being chubby and I'm very concerned about her long-term health and longevity.

One thing with my body type I've learned over the years [I'm 56 right now], is that I can eat all of the fish, veggies, fruits, proteins, fats I want and maintain a very slender, fit body, but if I introduce bread/grains/processed sugars into my diet for any regular length of time the pounds they start a comin' and I instantly back off but I definitely have my weaknesses which I can allow myself once in a while as long as it never becomes a regular thing.

I make my own milk kefir every other week and put that in my veggie dressing and I highly recommend it [if you like buttermilk or plain yogurt you'll love milk kefir].

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I am your age and I eat as you do with the same good results. Everyone else in my family is obese. For some people, carbs are fine if they aren't bread/potato/sugar/corn carbs. I do eat pasta or potatoes once in a while and immediately gain weight. Low carb eating and intermittent fasting aren't for everyone; they raise my blood pressure like crazy.

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Hey, my fellow 56-er! =0) Yep. Pasta is my nemesis (oh how I love it) and I'm an excellent bread baker but eating bread is only a rare treat for me.

Agreed on the being cautious with the low carb as it can be dangerous which is why I eat plenty of raw fruit so my blood sugar doesn't drop too low.

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I'm curious if you have ever tried freshly ground flour products? I've recently learned that there is a huge difference in nutritional value in freshly ground flour, compared to what we buy in the store, or what all food products we buy are made with. I've recently started grinding my own flour to make bread, and I wonder if your body would handle it better.

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I've ground small batches of flour but never anything large scale. The problem for me personally is my body will crave way too much grains [like crack cocaine to my body]. I've literally had withdrawals from coming off grains. Our bodies are unique universes and there really should be no set rules for each body IMHO. What's good for my body could be awful for someone else and visa versa.

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Walter, I get what you are trying to say, but not sure I agree with you. People can change their metabolism to be healthier. Their metabolism does not have a memory like the immune system does. But their diet/lifestyle can put these people in an unhealthy or healthy metabolism and this can change and be fixed once they understand what they need to do for their individual circumstances.

The battle is not Obesity. Obesity is a word used to describe a constellation of symptoms.

The battle you are probably referring to is the mind or mindset needed to get and remain in a healthy metabolism. That is a chronic issue.

If it was easy in today's society then everyone would be in perfect shape.

But as others have already mentioned, the powers that be who control most of the communication on these issues has been wrong more than right. Sounds eerily similar to other health issues.....

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I’m a health coach and I’ve had incredible success (nearly 100%)with keto diets for anyone having a metabolic condition. Obesity is due in part to the absurdity of dieting, when it’s a lifestyle issue. You have to tackle the stress issue first and heal the body. Yes, you can heal if you understand how excessive stress causes hormone imbalances and poor decision making. I don’t agree that it can’t be reversed, since it’s mainly a behavior issue.

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It’s so true! I saw your conversation with J yesterday, and it immediately made sense. I noticed that on myself, and how the fact that I grew up on a Mediterranean diet (in Israel) makes me physically incapable of eating certain things in large quantities, even if I’ve learned to enjoy them… my body rejects them. And if I listen to my body, I often hear “salad,” or “fish.” It’s so logical, it makes it almost surprising no one has put it together…

Seems like obesity is a lot like being a drug addict, and how it’s a lifelong battle

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Watch you tube videos from Dr Rob Cywes on carbohydrate addiction and insulin. I started the Carnivore diet one month ago today and it’s going great. No cravings and legit weight loss. It’s the easiest thing I have ever done with food thus far. It was recommended to me by a top sleep apnea doctor who did a lot of research on it.

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dadamo.com already published this in 2009 (gatherer & warrior genotype)

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