Me too Akpinad !! I’ve worked 3 years inside the hospital hell hole and did fine unjabbed ...the stuff works !! The anti- aging literature really helped me
This is very good. I'm 59 and have been taking NR for almost 5 months now. Very good results and positive body changes, also. I use this and switch up with Niacel 400 in one capsule. The resveracel has lower NR per capsule which is why you take 2 to get 400mg. I go between the 2 due to price. Thorne has a wonderful program you can talk to them for a $30 fee which goes towards supplements after. They will help you figure out which is best for your specific needs based on your personal health profile!
Some days I take 1-2 Resveracel, other days I take just 1 niacel400. I've been taking NR supplements since Oct 2022. This month, I'm really seeing results of it.
2 Resveracel has the same dosage NR as in 1 Niacel400. See Thorne's site for dosage & strength of each product. I have noticed Resveracel can give me a slight headache and Niacel400 does not. Might be the quercetin, idk. I prefer NAC over quercetin anyway.
The days I work out, I might take an extra Resveracel to put me at 600mg of NR. I do not take 2 Niacel400's at a time. 800mg just seems too high a dose and I always think less is more. I teeter the dosages because I don't want my body getting too use to anything. There are days I don't take either -- and just take a 500mg Niacinamide capsule.
My functional medicine Dr told me do not take niacinamide the day you take an NR supplement! Her micronutrient infusion center does IV therapeutics and they do NAD+ infusions along with many other types.
I find the Thorne supplements are working well for me. Better focus, memory, & my body fat composition is getting better. Exercise and NR supplements go hand in hand. I started to workout 3-4 days a week on a rebounder minitrampoline by Bellicon & do floor exercises almost daily. My muscle tone is amazingly improved in a short time. Aerobic activity has helped me feel better, as I was becoming too sedentary for a couple years. On an anecdotal note - my natural auburn hair which is graying, now has carrot red hairs growing in thick at my temples. Totally weird, right? Just like I had 10 years ago.
Sorry for writing a book - thanks for reading and I hope it helps in some way. You can always call Thorne Research & they will connect you with advisors ( for a fee) that can give you proper advice for your current health!
I don't need it/use it, but I like to keep a list of helpful stuff for others. Good luck! I am sure someone here would know the best place to purchase it. The place mentioned in another reply seemed legit.
I started having some mast cell activation after Covid and it helped along with an anti-inflammatory diet. Now I take it for prevention and general health.
I agree these products make a difference. I use an arsenal of nutritional supplementation since covid. I'm not vaccinated either. Taking an NR supplement is only recent for me, since oct 2022.
Interesting to note - I have never caught any viruses in well over 10 years. I've never had covid but have been around people who were sick. I'm thrilled more information is coming out to help those suffering. It's heartbreaking. As we age, we must explore all avenues for better health and longevity with the least big pharma intervention.
Well honestly the tip came from a dream which described cellular senescence as being the biological mechanism that needed to be researched in regards to Covid and that research led me to NMN/NR
Bio markers , Katherine... I would say not really ( ie Ca125 for ovarian cancer) . Basic blood work is helpful. I would look for symptoms like brain fog , exertional issues, fatigue, heart racing , ect... find a good integrative holistic doctor . Not sure if that helps .
I take NMN (relates to NAD+), as well as serrapeptase and other things to try to clean me up and protect me after having COVID at least once. Thank God I didn't get jabbed (literally, thank God for guiding me and giving me clear discernment)
Dmitry Kats (quite controversial) has been pushing high-dose nicotinic acid for Covid/Long Covid for the same reason. In his estimation it's superior (and far cheaper) than NR, NMN, and nicotinamide. I don't necessarily agree with that. One thing that folks have to be aware of is that high-dose niacin (or niacin related compounds) can act has methyl sponges and this can be potentially problematic for people with under methylation issues...
What do you mean with methylation? I am taking quite high doses of nicotinic acid, I am folowing dimitrys protocol for a while now but i did not know about that issue u mentioned
NAD is amazing. I has post viral syndrome from covid in 2021. I started IV NAD treatments (with gluthione, L-glutamine, ALA, Hugh Dose C, Zn, Mg, B12 and B complex)
All of my symptoms are gone plus my hair has grown back
Thank you for all the information. How did you ( or physician) find a clinic that gives and is knowledgeable on all the different infusions? This is what I have been looking for-- hard to find in North Fl. I have a great functional med doc (mostly naturopathic) and will order this for me to help with my long haul symptoms-- but how do I find? How did you find your concierge doc? I got covid ( delta) Sept 2021 -- still have residual fatigue, insomnia, GI issues, anxiety-- I know IV will help. I am unvaxxed as well. Also, may I ask how much glutathione you are getting?
I can’t thank you enough for sharing what you have been through and what has helped you. It’s extremely important that we (post viral folks) support one another as much as possible. A lot of us are out here all alone trying to figure out how to fix our symptoms- experimenting with supplements and therapies galore!!! It is stressful, scary, disappointing and exhausting-- so the info you have given me will help me guide my physician and look for these services in my area. God bless you and thank you for your time.
Dr. Mercola at one point recommended 50 mcg nicotinamide three times per day for mitochondrial health. I got a huge bag online, and I combine the nicotinamide with organic tumeric and pepper. Maybe I should send my (jabbed) daughter in LA a bottle. Thanks, Walter, for your research. Possible solutions cheer me up especially when they are OTC.
the dosage is 50 milligrams (mg) not micrograms (mcg). Of all the NAD precursors, I am most weary of nicotinamide because it's part of the salvage pathway and it's a methyl sink.
Hey Walter. Nice find! After your previous ‘stack, I was kinda’ scared to read this one. To my great relief, I see you’re back! Keep posting your finds as you find them sir!
Ian Mitchell over at Biocharged released a synergistic supplement called Amptogen. It contains Nicotinamide Mononucleotide (NMN). Here are the ingredients:
We start with Shilajit, an exudate found in the high mountains of India and Nepal. For centuries, this powder made from gradually decomposed plants has been treasured for its rejuvenating and longevity capabilities. In addition, Shilajit has been shown to promote both body and brain health in myriad ways, in addition to contributing to physical strength.
NMN
Working alongside the Shilajit is NMN (Nicotinamide Mononucleotide), a precursor to the vital compound NAD+, which is vital healthy aging to human biosynthesis. As we age, our levels of the coenzyme NAD+ are downregulated, leading to DNA breakdown, cognitive decline, inflammation, and general struggles associated with aging. Replenishing your body with nourishing NMN helps to reverse these processes, stimulating angiogenic activity and increasing oxidation while encouraging systemic homeostasis and slowing aging.
RESVERATROL
A third vital component in Amptogen is Resveratrol, a powerful polyphenol that serves as an antioxidant, integrating essential functions into the system that boosts cognitive function and protects the body from harmful and damaging processes associated with aging. Resveratrol essentially works by protecting the lining of the blood vessels in the heart and improves overall heart health.
NIACINAMIDE
Niacinamide is the non-flushing form of niacin (vitamin B3), and it is vital to the process by which the body breaks down fats and releases energy from carbohydrates.* Niacinamide also helps build keratin, a type of protein that keeps your skin firm and minimizes redness and blotchiness.
Biocharged also has a supplement that releases charged ozonated oil called Resistor. This causes a hormetic response that may be helpful to the cause.
Their claim:
Charged Ozonated Oil supports your body on a cellular level through increasing digestible oxygen.* Increased digestible oxygen supports your body’s ability to renew mitochondria at a faster rate, therefore supporting cellular turnover and regeneration for detoxification.* This also helps to support gut health and aid in weight management. Since Charged Ozonated Oil supports cells at a micro level, it can also help reinforce your body’s immune health.
Hi Walter, perhaps you can help. I would like to know which Endotoxins were measured in the Pfizer BioNTech jabs arising from the use of E Coli to grow the DNA. Could they include Colibactin?
They also use E Coli for creating gmo plants which is used as CAFO animal feed so the poop has E Coli which is sprayed as sustainable fertilizer.. voila fields of ecoli of lettuce etc!
Yes, they need to manufacture the DNA used for mRNA expression inside Bacteria. The one Pfizer chose for their "Process 2" is modified DH10B Escherichia coli. These Bacteria have been designed to "invade" Human Cervix and Breast Cells.
Even more interesting is the fact that Chloroquine assists the invasion.
A while back, I was freaked out when I read the NYT article about the manufacturing of the Pfizer shot with plasmids that are inserted in E.coli. The E.coli bacteria is then burst open to retrieve the plasmids. The bacteria is supposedly filtered out. Small comfort for those of us who live very close to the Pfizer plant and worry about "dodgy" practices. It remains shocking to me that so many people in Pfizerland did partake the jabs
Glad your research led you to the same conclusion I made. This is the product I’ve been taking this last year: https://www.thorne.com/products/dp/resveracel
It has high quality NR + quercetin + resveratrol
Me too Akpinad !! I’ve worked 3 years inside the hospital hell hole and did fine unjabbed ...the stuff works !! The anti- aging literature really helped me
Thanks for the note!
This is very good. I'm 59 and have been taking NR for almost 5 months now. Very good results and positive body changes, also. I use this and switch up with Niacel 400 in one capsule. The resveracel has lower NR per capsule which is why you take 2 to get 400mg. I go between the 2 due to price. Thorne has a wonderful program you can talk to them for a $30 fee which goes towards supplements after. They will help you figure out which is best for your specific needs based on your personal health profile!
where do you buy it? thanks.
I buy most my supplements through iHerb or you can purchase from the Thorne Research site, which is nicely constructed with lots of information.
thanks for your kindness.
may i ask how often would you suggest to take it? i am thinking of just taking it as a supplement right?
Yes, just as a supplement.
Some days I take 1-2 Resveracel, other days I take just 1 niacel400. I've been taking NR supplements since Oct 2022. This month, I'm really seeing results of it.
2 Resveracel has the same dosage NR as in 1 Niacel400. See Thorne's site for dosage & strength of each product. I have noticed Resveracel can give me a slight headache and Niacel400 does not. Might be the quercetin, idk. I prefer NAC over quercetin anyway.
The days I work out, I might take an extra Resveracel to put me at 600mg of NR. I do not take 2 Niacel400's at a time. 800mg just seems too high a dose and I always think less is more. I teeter the dosages because I don't want my body getting too use to anything. There are days I don't take either -- and just take a 500mg Niacinamide capsule.
My functional medicine Dr told me do not take niacinamide the day you take an NR supplement! Her micronutrient infusion center does IV therapeutics and they do NAD+ infusions along with many other types.
I find the Thorne supplements are working well for me. Better focus, memory, & my body fat composition is getting better. Exercise and NR supplements go hand in hand. I started to workout 3-4 days a week on a rebounder minitrampoline by Bellicon & do floor exercises almost daily. My muscle tone is amazingly improved in a short time. Aerobic activity has helped me feel better, as I was becoming too sedentary for a couple years. On an anecdotal note - my natural auburn hair which is graying, now has carrot red hairs growing in thick at my temples. Totally weird, right? Just like I had 10 years ago.
Sorry for writing a book - thanks for reading and I hope it helps in some way. You can always call Thorne Research & they will connect you with advisors ( for a fee) that can give you proper advice for your current health!
thank you very much for your kindness and detailed response. i will definitely get it.
I don't need it/use it, but I like to keep a list of helpful stuff for others. Good luck! I am sure someone here would know the best place to purchase it. The place mentioned in another reply seemed legit.
Thanks for that info, Lyra!
Are you taking this for prevention or treatment to help with long covid?
Prevention and energy level with aging .
I started having some mast cell activation after Covid and it helped along with an anti-inflammatory diet. Now I take it for prevention and general health.
More research needs to be done on the ingredient nicotinamide riboside:
https://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/nicotinamide-riboside-may-increase-breast-cancer-risk-metastasis
Just a heads up for us committed supplement takers.
It won't. Faulty data. Contact Thorne Research for studies. FDA is working to remove it from use and classify as a drug.
Wow! Thank you for the info, Lyra. They tried to do that with NAC too.
Thank you !!🤗
I agree these products make a difference. I use an arsenal of nutritional supplementation since covid. I'm not vaccinated either. Taking an NR supplement is only recent for me, since oct 2022.
Interesting to note - I have never caught any viruses in well over 10 years. I've never had covid but have been around people who were sick. I'm thrilled more information is coming out to help those suffering. It's heartbreaking. As we age, we must explore all avenues for better health and longevity with the least big pharma intervention.
How did you come upon this?
Well honestly the tip came from a dream which described cellular senescence as being the biological mechanism that needed to be researched in regards to Covid and that research led me to NMN/NR
You may have written about this previously, but what are the main diagnostic tests to confirm long-covid and spike protein progeria disease/SPED?
To your knowledge, are there specific biomarkers -- unique to covid and spike protein-caused disorders -- with corresponding tests?
Bio markers , Katherine... I would say not really ( ie Ca125 for ovarian cancer) . Basic blood work is helpful. I would look for symptoms like brain fog , exertional issues, fatigue, heart racing , ect... find a good integrative holistic doctor . Not sure if that helps .
Excellent question. Thanks for asking it Katherine.
I take NMN (relates to NAD+), as well as serrapeptase and other things to try to clean me up and protect me after having COVID at least once. Thank God I didn't get jabbed (literally, thank God for guiding me and giving me clear discernment)
Dmitry Kats (quite controversial) has been pushing high-dose nicotinic acid for Covid/Long Covid for the same reason. In his estimation it's superior (and far cheaper) than NR, NMN, and nicotinamide. I don't necessarily agree with that. One thing that folks have to be aware of is that high-dose niacin (or niacin related compounds) can act has methyl sponges and this can be potentially problematic for people with under methylation issues...
What do you mean with methylation? I am taking quite high doses of nicotinic acid, I am folowing dimitrys protocol for a while now but i did not know about that issue u mentioned
NAD is amazing. I has post viral syndrome from covid in 2021. I started IV NAD treatments (with gluthione, L-glutamine, ALA, Hugh Dose C, Zn, Mg, B12 and B complex)
All of my symptoms are gone plus my hair has grown back
I need this treatment. How did you find it? Through a personal physician? IV clinic? IV NAD is so expensive!!
I have a functional medicine Dr. He is concierge :( And not cheap. But, this has taken priority over frivolous / fun spending.
My inflammatory markers were high I had covid in 2021 with no respiratory—just loss of taste and smell and GI issues with a migraine
After —
I had lost a lot of hair and had fatigue/breathlessness, brain fog, exercise induced tach, and IBS like symptoms.
I saw my Dr and after blood work started me on “post viral IVs” w/gluth push.
1x a week for a month then every other and now 1x a month (or less)
I also compliment my Post Viral IVs with an IV ozonated saline before.
BTW: I only do IV 50mg NAD at a time.
[I like it mixed it my bag…Ive never done just strait NAD bag or IM NAD…although they offer it at the IV clinic.]
I feel really great
only issue I still have is a little dizziness right after a sprint run—I am hoping because I am out of shape?
but my HHR is great.
Thank you for all the information. How did you ( or physician) find a clinic that gives and is knowledgeable on all the different infusions? This is what I have been looking for-- hard to find in North Fl. I have a great functional med doc (mostly naturopathic) and will order this for me to help with my long haul symptoms-- but how do I find? How did you find your concierge doc? I got covid ( delta) Sept 2021 -- still have residual fatigue, insomnia, GI issues, anxiety-- I know IV will help. I am unvaxxed as well. Also, may I ask how much glutathione you are getting?
So I had an “evidence based” MD from an IVY who was pressuring me to get the vax after infection.
I too am unvaxxed.
I fired him and hired my current
Found him via his podcast I listened too on cancer.
Did a consult about my symptoms—and had very high LDH, CRP—along w/a few others—
was kinda shocked…
he started me on his post viral protocol.
I go 1000mg glutathione push w/every bag.
I am so sorry you are suffering so.
I truly feel the NAD is the game changer…
ozone iv first is amazing too.
Look and see if N FL has a “drip bar”
They do NAD drips I think too…
they are all over Fl
I can’t thank you enough for sharing what you have been through and what has helped you. It’s extremely important that we (post viral folks) support one another as much as possible. A lot of us are out here all alone trying to figure out how to fix our symptoms- experimenting with supplements and therapies galore!!! It is stressful, scary, disappointing and exhausting-- so the info you have given me will help me guide my physician and look for these services in my area. God bless you and thank you for your time.
Oh of course! Im just grateful that The Lord pointed me to this Dr...and that I can help others in any way!
I was suffering alone
my “fired” Dr kept telling me “we dont know what covid does..but WE DO KNOW the vax will help abate your post covid your symptoms-- “
https://www.thedripbar.com/
here is a Drip Bar link..they do IV NAD--prob about $50 an IV
https://www.amazon.com/TRU-NIAGEN-Supplement-Nicotinamide-Safety-Reviewed/dp/B07TK4VYWS/ref=sr_1_7?
In before they sell out! :)
Has anyone been following the issue of FDA barring nicotinamide mononucleotide (NMN) being used as a supplement?
https://www.nmn.com/news/fda-bans-labeling-nmn-as-a-supplement
https://www.regenerativemedicinedaily.com/david-sinclair-responds-to-nmn-ban-controversy
It appears to me an example of a company seeking FDA restriction in order to channel use through patentable versions of the same or similar compounds.
Yes. They want to patent a drug and NMN being otc supplement endangers their business model. I've somewhat stockpiled it.
Smart move. I think they were trying the same thing with NAC.
Sinclair caused this …follow the money 💰
Dr. Mercola at one point recommended 50 mcg nicotinamide three times per day for mitochondrial health. I got a huge bag online, and I combine the nicotinamide with organic tumeric and pepper. Maybe I should send my (jabbed) daughter in LA a bottle. Thanks, Walter, for your research. Possible solutions cheer me up especially when they are OTC.
the dosage is 50 milligrams (mg) not micrograms (mcg). Of all the NAD precursors, I am most weary of nicotinamide because it's part of the salvage pathway and it's a methyl sink.
50 mg three times a day is not very much.
True, but it is enough to increase NAD+ levels without being a drain on methylation.
Great suggestion Victoria thank u
Hey Walter. Nice find! After your previous ‘stack, I was kinda’ scared to read this one. To my great relief, I see you’re back! Keep posting your finds as you find them sir!
Substack is fantastic... you meet so many knowledgeable people in all different fields , thanks Sean C .
Ian Mitchell over at Biocharged released a synergistic supplement called Amptogen. It contains Nicotinamide Mononucleotide (NMN). Here are the ingredients:
200mg Niacin (as niacinamide)
200mg Nicotinamide Mononucleotide (NMN)
120mg Resveratrol (from grape (Vitis vinifera) peel extract)
200mg Shilajit
Here are their claims:
SHILAJIT
We start with Shilajit, an exudate found in the high mountains of India and Nepal. For centuries, this powder made from gradually decomposed plants has been treasured for its rejuvenating and longevity capabilities. In addition, Shilajit has been shown to promote both body and brain health in myriad ways, in addition to contributing to physical strength.
NMN
Working alongside the Shilajit is NMN (Nicotinamide Mononucleotide), a precursor to the vital compound NAD+, which is vital healthy aging to human biosynthesis. As we age, our levels of the coenzyme NAD+ are downregulated, leading to DNA breakdown, cognitive decline, inflammation, and general struggles associated with aging. Replenishing your body with nourishing NMN helps to reverse these processes, stimulating angiogenic activity and increasing oxidation while encouraging systemic homeostasis and slowing aging.
RESVERATROL
A third vital component in Amptogen is Resveratrol, a powerful polyphenol that serves as an antioxidant, integrating essential functions into the system that boosts cognitive function and protects the body from harmful and damaging processes associated with aging. Resveratrol essentially works by protecting the lining of the blood vessels in the heart and improves overall heart health.
NIACINAMIDE
Niacinamide is the non-flushing form of niacin (vitamin B3), and it is vital to the process by which the body breaks down fats and releases energy from carbohydrates.* Niacinamide also helps build keratin, a type of protein that keeps your skin firm and minimizes redness and blotchiness.
You can find out more here:
https://biocharged.co/product/amptogen/
Biocharged also has a supplement that releases charged ozonated oil called Resistor. This causes a hormetic response that may be helpful to the cause.
Their claim:
Charged Ozonated Oil supports your body on a cellular level through increasing digestible oxygen.* Increased digestible oxygen supports your body’s ability to renew mitochondria at a faster rate, therefore supporting cellular turnover and regeneration for detoxification.* This also helps to support gut health and aid in weight management. Since Charged Ozonated Oil supports cells at a micro level, it can also help reinforce your body’s immune health.
https://biocharged.co/product/resistor/
Good call. Especially when combined with resveratrol.
#drbeen
In this set of in-vivo and in-vitro studies the authors demonstrate how bovine lactoferrin helped accelerate COVID-19 recovery. Let's review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i08cgj6etY
Lactoferrin for COVID-19 prevention, treatment, and recovery
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2022.992733/full
Lactoferrin Against SARS-CoV-2: In Vitro and In Silico Evidences - PubMed
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34220...
Frontiers | Lactoferrin for COVID-19 prevention, treatment, and recovery
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/...
I would look at the benefits of DHEA. So few people know about it or supplement with it.
One expert you could consult with is Stephen Cherniske. He wrote the original book on DHEA
I’ve helped over 60 people with B3, I’m glad your research has gone in this direction.
Hi Walter, perhaps you can help. I would like to know which Endotoxins were measured in the Pfizer BioNTech jabs arising from the use of E Coli to grow the DNA. Could they include Colibactin?
They also use E Coli for creating gmo plants which is used as CAFO animal feed so the poop has E Coli which is sprayed as sustainable fertilizer.. voila fields of ecoli of lettuce etc!
They used E Coli? 🤬
Yes, they need to manufacture the DNA used for mRNA expression inside Bacteria. The one Pfizer chose for their "Process 2" is modified DH10B Escherichia coli. These Bacteria have been designed to "invade" Human Cervix and Breast Cells.
Even more interesting is the fact that Chloroquine assists the invasion.
Paper behind a paywall.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0168365921000511
A while back, I was freaked out when I read the NYT article about the manufacturing of the Pfizer shot with plasmids that are inserted in E.coli. The E.coli bacteria is then burst open to retrieve the plasmids. The bacteria is supposedly filtered out. Small comfort for those of us who live very close to the Pfizer plant and worry about "dodgy" practices. It remains shocking to me that so many people in Pfizerland did partake the jabs
.https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/health/pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine.html
Thank you!
Please read Geoff Pain's latest terrific article:
https://geoffpain.substack.com/p/production-of-the-pfizer-biontech?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1264116&post_id=99514784&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
Do the bacteria and attendant endoxins ever get filtered out? Spread in the environment?