I think chronic exercise is hysterical! I love it. Chronic has such negative connotations ……. and exercise positive (although that’s not clear by people’s choices 🤣) …. But I love the dichotomy of those 2 words.
Many thanks for all the work you are doing. I salute you an many others who are working tirelessly to expose the threat of the virus, the deleterious effects of the vax and the perpetrators of this crime against humanity. God speed!.
Ummm the SARS2 damage in "Long" covid, and the jabs include the mitochondrial function, too. That results in difficulty, often great difficulty, processing oxygen and making sufficient ATP. If the damage is too much, exercise will worsen everything and do more damage (ME/CFS). Exercise will be dependent on the extent of the damage, extent of recovery, managing all the immune issues. It isn't a matter of will, it is physiological. Now that we know more, and have some "spike detox" protocols, I think the injured and impaired will be better situated to get to more regular exercise, the joys it brings and more function.
Exercise doesn't restore mitochondrial function, the Krebs Cycle has to function better. I used to get 1-2 weeks a year, usually in summer or early fall where I could do things without much post-exertional. I haven't heard of those recovering mitochondrial function having exercise problems, other then needing to slowly work up to a level, perhaps not able to do as much before the damage. If you have any citations, I'll read the papers. My husband had a lot of ME patients, exercise intolerance is one of the hallmarks. Checking hormone function was always part of the work up. There are 3 or 4 genetic conditions that that cause the same problems as ME, fortunately they are easily treated.
Coop, unfortunately when our mitochondria are turning out ADP instead of ATP, we are flat screwed on that. You are familiar with trying to stay within the energy envelope for any given day, and how easy it is to overdo, because it is so hard to gauge. I've had times when I could almost be a regular person, maybe a couple weeks, maybe 2-3 days then wham. I am so happy when I can do something! Important to have your thyroid, iron, CD4+ and CD8+ differential, all that stuff checked out, including your cortisol levels, sometimes we need just a teeny tad of supplementation with corticosteroid. Getting enough sleep is essential, good nutrition of course. Sometimes we can't see when we are going to run out of steam, it can happen so fast, can barely get to the toilet if lucky. The body views both bad and "good" stress as simply stress. Getting good news or having something good happen can trash us as much as what we are used to calling "stress." Beware getting overheated, that can trash you for months. Dr. McCullough said even after "recovery" from an infection, they can still find spikes for 15 months. So, all those things that can block the spikes - quercetin with zinc, Pepcid, IVM, HCQ, all those things on the spike detox lists can help with that. Tenofovir helped my ME a lot, gave me a lot more of my brain back, too.
Another delicious delight from Walter Chesnut! THANK YOU!
How do we reconcile this comment about zinc and the study, for example, cited below?
https://scivisionpub.com/pdfs/covid19-rna-based-vaccines-and-the-risk-of-prion-disease-1503.pdfJ Bart Classen"Zinc ions have been shown to cause the transformation of TDP-43 to its pathologic prion configuratiom. The folding of TDP-43 and FUS into their pathologic prions confirmations is known to cause ALS, front temporal lobar degeneration, Alzherimer'sm and other neurological diseases."---------------------------------------------------------------
Neprilysin and Amyloid Beta Peptide Degradation Author(s): Louis B. Hersh and David W. Rodgers
Neprilysin is a zinc metalloendopeptidase with relatively broad substrate specificity. The enzyme is localized to the plasma membrane of cells where it can function to degrade extracellular peptides. Structural studies show that neprilysin preferentially cleaves peptides on the amino side of hydrophobic amino acids. Neprilysin has been implicated in the catabolism of amyloid β peptides in the brain and as such has received considerable attention, particularly as a therapeutic target for Alzheimers disease. An inverse relationship between neprilysin levels and amyloid β peptide levels and between neprilysin levels and amyloid plaque formation has been observed in human brain. Neprilysin levels decline with aging in the temporal and frontal cortex possibly contributing to higher amyloid β peptide levels. A number of studies have shown that increasing neprilysin levels in the brain leads to a decrease in brain amyloid β peptide levels. Most recently a potential relationship between amyloid β peptide synthesis from the amyloid precursor protein and neprilysin activity has been proposed.
I'm shooting from the hip but I think the zinc becomes problematic after the responsible pathogenic cascade has been induced. I'll go back and read Classen's paper.
They are correct, you should take zinc, just enough. Zinc is necessary for innumerable cell processes. It's when everything goes to heck you want to use more care with it, and you will need specialized treatment. Meanwhile, taking the HCQ/IVM protocols, quercetin, D, C, etc. is usually helpful. It's probably well worth a telemed consult with Dr. Kory, Dr. Marik, Keith Berkowitz, with FLCCC, or an AFLDS doctor; there are others, I just can't remember names right this minute. Ben Marble MD at Myfreedoctor. They are taking care of long covid, post-jab patients and seeing improvements. They also know doctors all over the country who are clued in.
Thank you for your enlightening work. And with the vax they are now suggesting to avoid exercise for a week or more. All those poor people who played regular sports and the problems they are now living with....
"Regular" is a better word than "chronic" exercise.
I think chronic exercise is hysterical! I love it. Chronic has such negative connotations ……. and exercise positive (although that’s not clear by people’s choices 🤣) …. But I love the dichotomy of those 2 words.
"Chronic has such negative connotations"
Exactly!
kind of like using "consistent habit" rather than "addiction?" it does sound prettier and avoids the negative medical slant.
I enjoy how English does allow for a lot of sarcasm depending on choice of adjective/adverb.
A word, even a latter, can make all the difference.
😄
So does an emoji...:)
Many thanks for all the work you are doing. I salute you an many others who are working tirelessly to expose the threat of the virus, the deleterious effects of the vax and the perpetrators of this crime against humanity. God speed!.
Ummm the SARS2 damage in "Long" covid, and the jabs include the mitochondrial function, too. That results in difficulty, often great difficulty, processing oxygen and making sufficient ATP. If the damage is too much, exercise will worsen everything and do more damage (ME/CFS). Exercise will be dependent on the extent of the damage, extent of recovery, managing all the immune issues. It isn't a matter of will, it is physiological. Now that we know more, and have some "spike detox" protocols, I think the injured and impaired will be better situated to get to more regular exercise, the joys it brings and more function.
Liothyronine (T3 thyroid) seems better for slowly restoring mitochondrial function than exercise is.
Many can't handle exercise until AFTER some mitochondrial function is restored, not before.
Exercise doesn't restore mitochondrial function, the Krebs Cycle has to function better. I used to get 1-2 weeks a year, usually in summer or early fall where I could do things without much post-exertional. I haven't heard of those recovering mitochondrial function having exercise problems, other then needing to slowly work up to a level, perhaps not able to do as much before the damage. If you have any citations, I'll read the papers. My husband had a lot of ME patients, exercise intolerance is one of the hallmarks. Checking hormone function was always part of the work up. There are 3 or 4 genetic conditions that that cause the same problems as ME, fortunately they are easily treated.
Long Hauler here. Post exertion symptom exacerbation is very real. Can take days to recover from an overly physically active or stressful days.
Wondering if there's away to synthesize the exercise benefits, while avoiding the exercise.
Hyperbaric oxygen therapy?
Coop, unfortunately when our mitochondria are turning out ADP instead of ATP, we are flat screwed on that. You are familiar with trying to stay within the energy envelope for any given day, and how easy it is to overdo, because it is so hard to gauge. I've had times when I could almost be a regular person, maybe a couple weeks, maybe 2-3 days then wham. I am so happy when I can do something! Important to have your thyroid, iron, CD4+ and CD8+ differential, all that stuff checked out, including your cortisol levels, sometimes we need just a teeny tad of supplementation with corticosteroid. Getting enough sleep is essential, good nutrition of course. Sometimes we can't see when we are going to run out of steam, it can happen so fast, can barely get to the toilet if lucky. The body views both bad and "good" stress as simply stress. Getting good news or having something good happen can trash us as much as what we are used to calling "stress." Beware getting overheated, that can trash you for months. Dr. McCullough said even after "recovery" from an infection, they can still find spikes for 15 months. So, all those things that can block the spikes - quercetin with zinc, Pepcid, IVM, HCQ, all those things on the spike detox lists can help with that. Tenofovir helped my ME a lot, gave me a lot more of my brain back, too.
Thanks for your response.
Good points.
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-richard-fleming-how-the-vaxx-is-breaking-down-the-body_O6Vy9D1XVXc4Fn5.html
At 10:27 Dr. Fleming begins to discuss treatment plans. Your thoughts on his recommendations?
Thank you. Muchly.
Another delicious delight from Walter Chesnut! THANK YOU!
How do we reconcile this comment about zinc and the study, for example, cited below?
https://scivisionpub.com/pdfs/covid19-rna-based-vaccines-and-the-risk-of-prion-disease-1503.pdfJ Bart Classen"Zinc ions have been shown to cause the transformation of TDP-43 to its pathologic prion configuratiom. The folding of TDP-43 and FUS into their pathologic prions confirmations is known to cause ALS, front temporal lobar degeneration, Alzherimer'sm and other neurological diseases."---------------------------------------------------------------
Neprilysin and Amyloid Beta Peptide Degradation Author(s): Louis B. Hersh and David W. Rodgers
Neprilysin is a zinc metalloendopeptidase with relatively broad substrate specificity. The enzyme is localized to the plasma membrane of cells where it can function to degrade extracellular peptides. Structural studies show that neprilysin preferentially cleaves peptides on the amino side of hydrophobic amino acids. Neprilysin has been implicated in the catabolism of amyloid β peptides in the brain and as such has received considerable attention, particularly as a therapeutic target for Alzheimers disease. An inverse relationship between neprilysin levels and amyloid β peptide levels and between neprilysin levels and amyloid plaque formation has been observed in human brain. Neprilysin levels decline with aging in the temporal and frontal cortex possibly contributing to higher amyloid β peptide levels. A number of studies have shown that increasing neprilysin levels in the brain leads to a decrease in brain amyloid β peptide levels. Most recently a potential relationship between amyloid β peptide synthesis from the amyloid precursor protein and neprilysin activity has been proposed.
I'm shooting from the hip but I think the zinc becomes problematic after the responsible pathogenic cascade has been induced. I'll go back and read Classen's paper.
Everyone under the sun is saying to take zinc for long covid. They wrong?
They are correct, you should take zinc, just enough. Zinc is necessary for innumerable cell processes. It's when everything goes to heck you want to use more care with it, and you will need specialized treatment. Meanwhile, taking the HCQ/IVM protocols, quercetin, D, C, etc. is usually helpful. It's probably well worth a telemed consult with Dr. Kory, Dr. Marik, Keith Berkowitz, with FLCCC, or an AFLDS doctor; there are others, I just can't remember names right this minute. Ben Marble MD at Myfreedoctor. They are taking care of long covid, post-jab patients and seeing improvements. They also know doctors all over the country who are clued in.
Thank you for your enlightening work. And with the vax they are now suggesting to avoid exercise for a week or more. All those poor people who played regular sports and the problems they are now living with....