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Walter, this is most interesting and concerning.

I have a question. China uses deactivated virus vaccines. Do those also contain spike protein?

Also, what would be the signs that I would notice about myself, an unvaxed covid survivor, that I am developing any amyloid disease?

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Early warning signs might be:

* heart rate variability worsening due to heart injury (emWave, others)

* fasting blood sugar worsening due to pancreatic injury (glucose meter, ideal is 83)

* reaction time tests for brain health (such as https://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/java/redgreen.html, and https://sethroberts.net/2014/01/09/reaction-time-as-a-measure-of-health/)

* balance testing (see Seth Roberts -- https://sethroberts.net/2006/07/26/brain-food-part-4-measuring-balance/)

Re Seth: sadly he died of a heart attack, I suspect a combination of heavy metal exposure from his time in China and too much polyunsaturated fat. https://sethroberts.net/2014/05/10/cause-of-death/

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that reaction time at sethroberts.net is great - other tests as well at https://humanbenchmark.com/ (may have carpal tunnel now..)

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Tim would all those warning signs you mentioned showed up before than amyloid on MRI of brain?

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I don't know, but think they would. (And all of these warning signs can be caused by other things as well.)

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I do not know the answer definitively. However, Sinovac, Sinopharm and KConvac are inactivated whole virus vaccines, so that would contain the full spike protein sequence, correct? https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/approved/

Cansino is a non-replicating viral vector product, also with spike.

None contain the synthetic version of spike protein with the pseudouridine substitutions.

Look forward to reading a definitive answer.

*edit* This paper states "There are open questions concerning the structure of S in the inactivated vaccines." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8368295/

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May 2, 2022·edited May 2, 2022

This paper showed that being vaccinated increases ones' odds of getting long covid ( two doses of COVID-19 vaccination (aOR=2.32, 95% CI: 1.17,4.58) , https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.04.21268536v1). The sample size is rather small and the percentage of long covid patients (29.8%) among the followed up PCR positive, is rather too large, so I wouldn't bet my house on their findings but it is indicative that the vaccine does not help reduce the effect of the virus. So at least, you are better off being unvaxxed and recovered(like me) as compared to vaxxed and recovered . We all know that the vaccine increses one's chances of getting covid so being vaccinated is net negative, even when leaving the spike dose in the injection aside.

There are some suggestions how to detox from the spike but I wonder if indeed or to what extent those work: https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/resources/spike-protein-detox-guide/

Pls do share on your substack if you have other thoughts on this most important issue

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Igor would you consider doing a post about this topic? You explain things so well it makes it easier to understand. I'm particularly interested in your question above and also the impact on vaccinated populations, especially those vaccinated with the mrna vaccines. Thank you for all you do!

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Thank you! Could you clarify your specific topic of interest? Also keep in mind that I write only about things where I can understand something, so I hope that your interest lies in that area.

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I have some questions that I would love to see someone address:

Do you see any qualitative difference for people who were infected naturally, via sheds from a vaxxed person, or from the vax itself? Is the effect of the spike essentially the same along all acquisition routes? Do those who acquired the spike thru infection rather than vax clear it any quicker than the vaxxed? Is it true the vaxxed are still making spikes 15 months later? is it true that taking hcq or ivermectin reduces spike loads?

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I approve of all these questions. :)

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I have now seen/read the science that says the natural infection confers the best immunity, which is T-cell initiated, and it is indeed cleared away the fastest, any future infection will be milder, and possibly not even recognized. People who have been vaxxed can be infected by a variant and mount little to no response, and they may become loaded with virus; they need antiviral treatment. Of course, ivermectin is antiviral. The vaxxed can/will become repeatedly infected. And not just by covid.

They have found covid antibodies in the serum of unvaxxed household contacts who seem to never have been ill with covid, but had exposure to vaxxed household members, and there is proof of the exosomes being exhaled by the vaxxed.

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Yes I saw that study! I wonder if it means we are unwittingly being "vaccinated" by shedding.

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When I indicated I was interested in your question above, I meant your question about the vaccine china has been using, and whether the spike generated by the vaccine has the same effect as the spike from natural infection.

I naturally tend towards believing anything natural is better for you than synthetic, which is why I opted for natural infection over vaccination, but new research is coming out that seems to be saying the opposite. Like this study:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04702-4

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Basically the topic of this article, the amyloidosis and the senescence from the spike protein. Is the spike impact the same for vaxxed and unvaxxed? I have just recovered from covid, and wondering how this will impact me and my family....

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Very early on, one of the legitimate reporters published a bit from a paper that showed DARPA was working on "self-spreading vaccines", and I wonder if that is what this is. There are unvaxxed people going around calling themselves the "purebloods", and now I am wondering if it made no difference at all how you encountered the spike.

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YES this is exactly my worry. Unvaccinated or vaccinated, spike is spike, and we are all doomed. Although so far I have only encountered it once whereas vaxxed have had it 2-4 times from vaccination and then any infections they have had. Are we all doomed?

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I have been listening to this interview: https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/videos-and-interviews/international-vaccine-expert-geert-vanden-bossche-speaks-up-again

He says the natural infection is vastly superior and confers immunity; if you get a variant after recovery you will have only a mild case and get over it quickly. He says the unvaxxed in the hospital are unwell people with comorbidities. Also said the vaxxed get reinfected over and over because they will never be able to clear the virus. They will be the source of a future more virulent variant; so keep up with supplements, and get some hcq and ivermectin to keep on hand in case that future bad variant arises, and you will be ready for early treatment.

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At least shed would be a many many magnitude smaller load of spike, spike parts and potentially caMRNA. Think what load could be delivered in some exosomes from a cough vs a full shot in the arm. I believe the dilution is significant but not always enough to avoid second hand spike reactions. That said, how much prion is too much. Just sayin'

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Agreed. The route of entry is important. Even if the "virus" in circulation is a bioweapon, it entering our bodies at normal infection points allows a normal, systemic response to it. The circulating virus doesn't have all the lipid nano particles, etc. Injecting the spike soup into the body subverts the natural immune system response, allowing it a hall pass to go everywhere inside the body, depending on the body it is injected into. And we are only seeing the short-term effects of this injection, this winter will start us on the mid-term effects for the population who received it early, but the long-term effects... 3-7 years more down the road to truly have an understanding of how this really effects the human population.

Glad I'm part of the control group. I'd rather be in this spot. I just had Convid a few weeks back, fatigue was the worst symptom. Took the horse paste, vitamin, white Willow Bark, etc type path. Seem fine now. I live with my GF who is in nursing school, she had to get the vaxxx this late summer to attend (shitty) - she also got Convid too, right after me. I think people's systems range in reactions to shedding. I seem thus far okay. Thanks

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Apr 21, 2022Liked by Walter M Chesnut

Brilliant Walter! Thank you for continuing to help us understand what is really going on. If you want to use Twitter I am happy to give you access to my account and you can take over. Your contribution and insights are ABSOLUTELY critical, so please contact me if there is anything I can do to assist.

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It's interesting that this is the post you get kicked off Twitter for. I doubt anyone at Twitter can understand what you're talking about here, they don't have the scientific knowledge! So why this one? Is it because you've hit the nail on the head? 🤏

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Exactly.

There are bigger forces at work in this censored world.

They know.

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Potential treatments:

Nattokinase - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6043915/

Avermectins - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213671117300735

Vit D - https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/134/Supplement_1/5523/425459/

Quercetin - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006291X11019693?via%3Dihub

Luteolin - https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ptr.2940

Melatonin - https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-079X.1999.tb00575.x

However I've spoken to many sufferers of Long COVID and they say one or more of these do not work for them.

Need to start trying to slow the effects of this in people, though.

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Quercetin studies give me confidence in this antioxident, particularly w/amyloid formation. Many auto-immune victims and long covids have another problem though and that is damage or destruction to the mitochondria w/primary sx. of muscle weakness (+wasting), chronic severe fatigue, and PEM(post exertional malaise which is a very significant problem if you ever experience it). My instinct says this is vx. damage related to many vxs., possibly starting w/HBV in the '70's. Working my way thru the papers to find the mitochondrial holy grail and supplements that help.

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ancient practice and research from the 90's and to and through an Italian company's patent application and 2020 granting spell out a simple way to increase quercetin absorption by 10 X (and keep it active longer) that is undoubtedly useful with other hard to absorb herbs. Ayurveda teaches combine your remedy with honey and ghee. I will copy below a email I previously on this subject containing details I have recently tried wet (water) combining tapioca maltodextrin (I found export records showing tapioca maltodextrin shipped in bulk to drug manufacturing companys) I chose a nutricost organic maltodextiin tapiOK branding 1 to 1 with the hard to absorb then "subject" (adding a sugar moiety?) then adding a larger amount of Now brand sunflower lecithin. My bodily reaction was IT WORKS (perhaps better than spoon on plate mechanical grinding) so be careful! note: many elite distancerunners use the maltodextrin for its high absorbancy some prefere a 3 part maltodextrin 1 part fructrose rehydration/refuel drink. prior email

While searching to find how to increase absorption of quercetin I came across your video where you were "compounding pharmacist Claudia" making lysosomal vitamin C. As you use quercetin and seem to be an experimenter I thought to pass some info I found in two patents. The first is an Indena SpA patent who make Quercefit. In their earlier application documents ( only the final 2020 patent seems easily available now) they made an interesting revelation that a simple mechanical mixture of quercetin and maltodextrin or fructose (or other sugar) and lecithin (they use sunflower) in the range of 1-1-1 or equal parts (or a number of ratios) increased absorption by 10 times while their lysosomal/phytosome product where they dissolve all in 190 proof ethanol which, at that time, they said increased absorption by 20 times. Now in the final document they claim that that their full process increases absorption by 50 times and they make no mention of the efficacy of the simple mechanical mixture but they do put a graph at the very beginning of the document which shows the low absorption of quercetin, the higher absorption of the :"physical mixture" (mechanical mixture) and the highest absorption of their "solid dispersion" which is their alcohol dissolved and dried "phytosome product Quercefit. That graph is best seen in the pdf US20200.... They say the use of the sugar is important.

I use the back of a tablespoon against a plate to first grind together the quercetin and the sugar then the lecithin. I figure it has to be good for a 5 times increase in absorption but I don't know. You might be sensitive enough to tell if a smaller amount of the mixture works as well as a regular dose. From some reading I am thinking that the basic process of coating with a sugar and then a fat wound substantially increase absorption of many harder to absorb herbs and the like.

the other patent US8440... helps inform the usefulness of taking quercetin with B3 and C. I do not think you have to be concerned with the C.

Additional and related Surprising observations include that a combination of quercetin, vitamin B3. and vitamin C maintains quercetin levels in plasma up to five times those of quercetin alone or a combination of quercetin...

Thank You for all you share. James

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20200206186A1/en?oq=US20200206186A1

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/ab/aa/e9/41f67fcf738609/US20200206186A1.pdf

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Can also add EGCG to the list i think?? It reduces "beta-amyloid" (Abeta) and modulates tau pathology protein. Ref. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18457818/

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also NAC

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Apr 21, 2022·edited Apr 21, 2022

Circumin + Vit D digests amyloid plaques

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090715131558.htm

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I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that curcumin has the potential to fix just about any health issue ;)

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No, that's black seed oil.

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Black seed oil: the remedy for everything but death ~ Sayer Ji 😊

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he was quoting Muhammed

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So this is ancient wisdom! Cool, I didn’t know that.

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Bingo! That's where I heard it, too. 😊

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So in the next 5-7 years or sooner we will see the exponential increase in Dementia, followed by exponential increase in transient/mini strokes & strokes in next 6-8 years. Exponetial increase in fatal strokes 8-9 years approximately. The need for careers & assisted living will increase EXPONENTIALLY.

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Do you have an age group in mind? I wonder what things are going to look like for children and teenagers 5 years from now. I suspect it'll be a bit different.

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Walter provided the answer in his article. I do not want to put words in "his mouth" so best to re read the article again. My understanding is that ALL ages will be affected. SOME people from ALL ages will be affected. To predict who &when & how rapidly will deteriorate is a question that maybe geniuses could answer...That is what I took from Walters article. I might be wrong.

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I keep thinking of it as "accelerated cellular aging" disease. You can be 20 years of chronological age, but on a cellular level your body might age 6 years for each year that passes. the level of acceleration of cellular aging might be progressive or exponential, depending on lifestyle, nutrition and other medical conditions or cofactors.

But also it's not totally hopeless since there's increasing scientific research in the opposite camp, to slow, stop and even to reverse cellular aging.

Imho the best way to defeat all this accelerated aging warfare is by just staying alive, healthy and optimistic.

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I really don't think it will take that long.

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also exponential increase in cancers and opportunistic infections

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Herpesviruses also cause Amyloidosis. They exacerbate, trigger or cause all kinds of disease. Just like Sars cov 2. It has been a conspiracy for a long time. Big Pharma has been hiding this so they can reap massive profits treating symptoms of all these idiopathic diseases instead of curing or eradicating the cause. Ask yourself why chickens have had multiple herpes vaccines since 1960 and humans none. Why they don't infect their 'humanized' lab animals with the same viruses most people have multiple of whether they know it or not. Why so many diseases in 2022 are idiopathic. If they acknowledge the true cause of many of these diseases they will be pressured to eradicate the viruses and thus kill their cash cow. Walter, please look into this if u have time. I have been onto this conspiracy for over a decade. It always leads back to these supposedly benign supposedly latent viruses. The perfect human body does not just attack itself. It is attacking something else. Something is triggering it. Why it is so difficult for ppl to put 2 and 2 together I don't know. The evidence is there. A ton of it. 'Unequivocal evidence' to quote many studies. Especially about Alzhiemers and herpes. Make a list of idiopathic diseases and look for links.

https://www.alzforum.org/news/research-news/herpes-triggers-amyloid-could-virus-fuel-alzheimers

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Does anyone know if a presenting vascular symptom of this long Covid would be daily bleeding noses? Since havin Omicron in Feb, my teen daughter has been getting almost daily bleeding noses. They don't last long but she never had them this regular before Covid.

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It may be something as simple as needing a vein in the nose cauterized. All females in our family have low platelets so we bleed easily. Recurrent nosebleeds are solved by our GP by pressing a q-tip with a cauterizing chemical on the problem spot inside the nose.

If she has other signs of low platelets - bleeding gums, little red spots on her skin, etc.- her platelet count should be checked.

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Her body might be thinning blood to fight off plaque ??

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She is your teen daughter. She may be consuming "other things" that could give her nose bleeds, which she would likely keep secret from you (even if you believe she tells you everything). I would rule out this possibility first.

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Bleeding nose can be a symptom of POTS, a part of MCAS, which is also an after-effect of SARS-COV2, as well as of EBV or Lyme. Have a look at POTS/MCAS.

Some homeopathic treatments can help, but you need a certified unicist homeopath MD.

My son got better from his bleeding with the treatment.

Best wishes! ❤️

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Walter what you wrote is so HUUUGE. Please note you can take over my Twitter account and do whatever you want. I do not mind if the account gets suspended because of anything you want to tweet. Your WORK and INSIGHTS have to be shared. People deserve to know. Once again, THANK YOU.

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This is revelatory information that I hope can be viewed, reviewed and confirmed by folks who can start coming up with a workable action plan in response. As you point out, China's zero tolerance approach, combined with vaccines that do not create spike proteins is one way. I'm seriously hoping that someone will have a flash of genius insight as to how the rest of the world can effectively minimize damage from the spike protein.

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"combined with vaccines that do not create spike proteins is one way"

They're still injecting the entire virus, which includes the spike protein, along with nasty adjuvants to provoke an immune response. They're maybe not the poison of the mRNA vaccines, but not ideal either. I'd much rather go with a strong early treatment approach to keep the virus in the respiratory tract and out of the blood stream.

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That sounds like the best option: stay as far away from the virus and the vaccines as possible and, in case we get it, throw all the sink at it with early and thorough treatment.

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exactly what early treatment with hcq or ivermectin are for

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Apr 21, 2022·edited Apr 21, 2022

that explains his tweeter account suspension.

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This could be the key to China’s zero-covid policies, after they studied a lot of vaccinated people from the West, who entered the country and were sent to hospitals. Do you remember those news, months ago?

This is from June 2021 and I could only find it in Spain’s press.

https://www.marca.com/tiramillas/actualidad/2021/06/25/60d59b3522601d81278b4602.html

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Wow, that is interesting indeed. China does seem like they know something don't they? For one they know the virus came from a lab. Just not their lab. China and Russia have been calling for an investigation into Fort Detrick for years now. Crickets in our media. If China and Russia ally it wouldn't be a shock to me because of this.

It didn't come from that lab. Try Fort Detrick.

Right before Fort Detrick suddenly shut down for safety reasons an hour drive away 2 care homes were struck with a mystery respiratory virus outbreak that was obviously covid. Also a vaping pneumonia that also was obviously covid plagued the area. Only in the US btw.

I want an international independent no conflict of interest investigation into the 17 samples we know the CDC took from Greenspring Village Care Home. I bet they also have samples from the vaping pneumonia people too. Look at the dates of the outbreaks and the Detrick lab shut down.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick-biohazard.html

Mystery virus outbreak at 2 care homes July 2019 1 hr drive from Fort Detrick. CDC took 17+ samples & never found a cause. I would like an independent international no conflict of interest investigation get those samples & DNA proof they are legit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2019/07/17/third-person-has-died-after-respiratory-illness-outbreak-greenspring-village-fairfax-officials-say/

Chinese embassy writes a letter to the US asking for info on the care home outbreaks, vaping pneumonia & Fort Detrick sudden lab shut down weeks later in July 2019. They got no response btw. Our scientists don't know but I do? http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/lcbt/sgfyrbt/202109/t20210915_9942150.htm

Army germ lab shut down by CDC in 2019 had several 'serious' protocol violations that year (Fort Detrick) https://wjla.com/news/local/cdc-shut-down-army-germ-lab-health-concerns

10 questions about vaping pneumonia fort detrick https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202005/28/WS5ecf46a9a310a8b241159267_2.html

U.S. vicious slanders on China over COVID-19 origins tracing and the truth (this is a good one with links to Fort Detrick's dangerous and illegal lab practices) http://www.news.cn/english/2021-11/06/c_1310294848_2.htm

U.S. vicious slanders on China over COVID-19 origins tracing and the truth (this is a good one with links to Fort Detrick's dangerous and illegal lab practices) http://www.news.cn/english/2021-11/06/c_1310294848_2.htm

The sudden shutdown of the Fort Detrick lab in the United States and the pneumonia outbreak that followed are far from coincidental and should be studied in the scope of the ongoing investigation into the pandemic's origins, a Russian political observer has said. http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-08/04/c_1310107970.htm

Omicron is Not Normal https://www.eugyppius.com/p/omicron-is-not-normal

https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-dinner-bezos-elon-musk-bill-gates-report-2011-2019-9?r=US&IR=T

https://youtu.be/eT_Gis3gkwc

https://youtu.be/52MqHTagtQs

Yes, as I thought Jeffery Epstien and his science obsession are involved in this whole thing. Bill Gates buddy. I think they faked his death. The whole jail thing was to fake his death.

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And there are (or were, if Russia has obliterated them as I have read) about a dozen DoD bioweapon research labs in the Ukraine. Wonder what their role was in this plague?

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somebody recently published that they were working on coronaviruses

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Yes—- there were/are multiple US funded labs in Ukraine and as near as I can determine-doing primarily GOF research not possible to do in the US. (Ukraine government is eminently corrupt. We know historically that Russia is …. for those not following events in these last 20+ years Ukraine has had a serious problem also…)

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Ft Detrick is also close by the home base of the military contingent that went to those military games in Wuhan, and I have read some reports that our military athletes were sick so that some of them did not even compete after traveling halfway around the world to do so.

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China’s lockdowns are an ideological virus that spread faster than the virus and THEY KNEW IT WOULD. This and the housing bubble of 2008 are an act of economic warfare on the rest of us.

The vaccine is your depopulation bomb, and they were NOT made in China, so are working more as planned, the virus was supposed to be closer to SARS lethality but they overoptimized for contagiousness…ooooops

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Hi Walter,

I've been following you for weeks but I am currently editing a video for my no-scientific background friends, specifically the parent ones. I would like to quote some of your hypotheses if it's okay with. I might need to use some of your used scheme as well. We are a covid19-vaccine victims NGO in France so I will be comenting some of your research in French.

Would it be okay with you ? You can contact us here verityfrance@gmail.com , we will forward you the video link and you may approve its broadcast or not.

Anyway, we would like to thank you for your devoted relentless works and your curious mind.

Wish you the best and a fast comeback on twitter.

Regards,

Verity NGO

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Bravo Mes amis!

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Other than sports figures, who would be getting the greatest exposure to the spike?

That is, who will be the canaries in the coal mine?

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Perhaps thin people? - I've read that the nanoparticles seek lipids/fats to enter cells - the greatest fat in athletes is apparently around the heart.

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Brilliant research again Walter. I so appreciate your hard work. Your missed on twitter

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So getting Covid causes this ?

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"It is because ALL of the sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 infection (and exposure to the Spike Protein, via Spike Protein therapies) are AMYLOIDOSES."

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Thanks Scott. Can you tie that to the possible behavior of the CCP because wouldn’t they know that if true they can’t prevent exposure?

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Apr 21, 2022Liked by Walter M Chesnut

China's economy is currently based on selling cheap labor to the world. My guess is that they are worried about the younger generation ending up with a permanent impairment that leads to a population crash in the future. The Chinese tend to be very long-term in their planning and their future depends on steadily growing their numbers.

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Apr 21, 2022·edited Apr 21, 2022

au contraire, the long-term planning seems to be in countries using mRNA vaxx on masse/mandatory and without clinical trials. this pandemic has been gamed for at least 20 years according to dr. malone and he got to know.

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They are already gonna have that thanks to their one child policy led to a many more boys than girls being born…that imbalance was already gonna fuck them over 🤷🏻

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I think your analysis is spot on.

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Ref. Dr. Ryan Cole - 4:40 min mark: https://rumble.com/v11jf4n-dr.-ryan-cole-cancer-depleting-immune-systems-and-the-who-pandemic-treaty.html

Dr. Ryan Cole says there is a difference between the spike protein from the virus and from the "synthetic" spike protein from the jab. The "natural" spike protein gets cleared from the body in a +/- a week (when the disease is gone) while the "synthetic" spike protein from the jab can be in the body for +60 days up to +4 months.

If you get naturally infected with the whole virus you are generally ok, if you get excess amounts of "synthetic" spikes from the jab that becomes a big concern.

And around 7 min mark:

Hindering binding of the "synthetic" spike to the celle and viral load goes down. Use these: HCQ, Ivermectin, Fenofibrate, Budesonide, steroides, anti clotting agent.

For Omicron use: Iodine drops + saltwater and spray that in the nose and do some gargeling in the throat.

Dr. Ryan Coles cancer and blot clot / amyloidosis concerns might be because people are not treated with his recommended medications long enough.

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That was my question or inquiry as well. Should we be even more considered about how humans are being used to manufacture the synthetic spike protein, even more so from that of the virus. For healthy individuals, my answer is yes.

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